Super Data Science: ML & AI Podcast with Jon Krohn
Super Data Science: ML & AI Podcast with Jon Krohn

011: Learning Resources, Thinking Like a Data Scientist and Data Exploration with Garth Zoller

In this session of the Super Data Science Podcast, I chat with Aspiring Data Scientist Garth Zoller. You will know how a creative person ends up in data science, discover how organisations build a culture of data science and be able to walk through an interesting case study on how Garth deals with v

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Jon Krohn HostGarth Zoller Guest

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Executive Summary: Garth Zoller shares how he is entering data science from a databases and business-analysis background, emphasizing that curiosity, persistence, and learning how to frame problems matter more than being a “left-brain” math genius. He walks through his learning path (stats, R, Tableau, Power BI, SQL), a real workplace case study, and how stakeholder collaboration, organizational culture, and communication turn data into business value.

Main Topics: Career evolution from databases to business analytics to data science: Garth describes a 14-year journey at NetApp, moving through support, management, program management, and business analyst roles while leveraging database expertise to create value through metrics and analysis. Right-brain learner entering a left-brain field: He explains that he is naturally more visual and contextual, but uses that as an advantage by attacking data problems from multiple angles and building a systems-level view. Learning path and tools for data science: The discussion covers his use of Excel stats add-ins, R, some Python exploration, Tableau, Power BI, SQL, and coursework/books from SuperDataScience, Udemy, Coursera, and Duke. Problem framing as the most important data science skill: Garth argues that the highest-value skill is not tool mechanics but learning how to define, frame, and attack a problem in the context of the business system. Case study: ambiguous business problem exploration: He walks through an analysis of master purchase agreements, starting with visualizing distributions, identifying skewness and customer concentration, then using stakeholder feedback to refine the investigation. Stakeholder alignment and organizational culture: The episode stresses that data science succeeds when insights are communicated in business language, tied to profit and efficiency, and introduced in ways that reduce fear and resistance. Giving back and community contribution: Garth discusses volunteering at Comfort Zone Camp and reflects on mentoring and sharing knowledge as a broader responsibility, including within data science communities.

Key Arguments: Data science is accessible even to people who do not see themselves as naturally quantitative; persistence and self-awareness matter more than innate brilliance. The best way to learn data science is incrementally: focus on one rock in front of you instead of trying to solve the whole mountain at once. A basic understanding of statistics is essential, but the necessary level is achievable for most learners. The core value of data science lies in problem framing—understanding what question you are solving and why, not just executing tools or algorithms. Visual exploration of data is often the best first step when a business problem is vague; histograms, skewness, modality, and concentration patterns can reveal where to go next. Stakeholder conversations should happen early and often because business leaders can provide hidden context that changes the analysis direction and increases impact. Organizational adoption of data science depends on translating findings into business value and showing that insights are opportunities, not threats. Data science skills are becoming as foundational as computer literacy and will increasingly differentiate both individuals and organizations.

Data Points: Years at NetApp: 14 years - Garth has worked at NetApp for roughly 14 years across multiple roles. Podcast episode: Episode 11 - This conversation is presented as the eleventh episode of the Super Data Science Podcast. Rule of thumb: 20/80 rule - Garth repeatedly refers to focusing on the 20% of actions that drive 80% of outcomes. Customer/revenue concentration: 20% of products or customers account for 80% of revenues - Used as an illustrative Pareto-style principle in his analysis and discussion of business concentration. Standard deviation reference: 68% of people in the first standard deviation - Garth uses the normal distribution metaphor to explain that most people are average and can still excel. Analysis timing: First day or two - He says he returned to the executive sponsor within the first day or two with initial visual findings. Learning cadence: Next quarter to one to two quarters - He plans to begin using R more directly in his work over the next quarter or two. Volunteer year: 2012 - He notes volunteering at Comfort Zone Camp as a Big Buddy in 2012.

Pivotal Quotes: "If I can get it, and again, coming from a right brain art background to a left brain world of application and having to make all those context switches, if I can do it, I can absolutely help you or know that you can do it." — Garth Zoller: Used as a litmus test to encourage beginners who doubt they can learn data science. "I think the most incredible important skill from a data science perspective is to think about how to think about a problem." — Garth Zoller: His view of the most valuable data science capability: framing the problem before using tools. "Do not be defeated by that. There's no need to be defeated by that. It's so doable to focus on one thing at a time." — Garth Zoller: Advice for learners overwhelmed by the breadth and depth of data science.

Implications: For learners, the episode argues for steady, practical progress built on stats, visualization, and problem framing. For organizations, it shows that data science creates value when tied to business goals, stakeholder trust, and a culture that treats insights as opportunities.

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