Revolutions
Revolutions

10.1- The International Working Men's Association

In 1864, a group of working men formed an international association called The International Working Men's Association.

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Mike Duncan HostKarl Marx Guest

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Executive Summary: This episode traces how the French Revolution’s legacy shaped 19th-century radical politics and led to the International Working Men’s Association (First International). It surveys early utopian socialism, the post-1848 split between reform, vanguard revolution, anarchism, and political liberation, then shows how Marx used the International to advance a class-struggle framework that would later define socialism, communism, and anti-anarchist debates.

Main Topics: The French Revolution as the template for later revolution (Priority: 5/5): The host frames the French Revolution as the central reference point for 19th-century politics, dividing actors into anti-revolutionaries and multiple revolutionary traditions: 1789 moderates, 1792 radical republicans, and 1796 proto-socialists who added the social question. Early utopian socialism and the social question (Priority: 5/5): Saint-Simon, Fourier, and Robert Owen are presented as proto-socialists who used reason, science, and planned communities to address poverty and inequality, though their schemes remained limited and often failed in practice. The impact of 1848 on socialist strategy (Priority: 5/5): The revolutions of 1848 are portrayed as a turning point that scattered radicals and forced them to rethink strategy, producing competing paths: Blanquist vanguardism, Proudhonian anarchism, and nationalist or republican approaches. Formation of the First International (Priority: 5/5): The 1864 St. Martin’s Hall meeting brought together diverse labor, socialist, anarchist, and nationalist currents to create the International Working Men’s Association as a broad alliance against the existing order. Marx’s role and the drafting of the International’s founding texts (Priority: 5/5): Marx, initially a minor participant, becomes central by drafting the Inaugural Address and Rules, embedding class struggle, worker self-emancipation, and the need to conquer political power into the organization’s ideological DNA. Tensions inside the International (Priority: 4/5): The International is described as an intentionally broad coalition that quickly contained incompatible goals: reform vs revolution, state power vs anti-politics, unions vs cooperatives, centralism vs decentralism, and Marxists vs anarchists. Setting up Marx vs. Bakunin and the road to Russian revolution (Priority: 4/5): The episode closes by forecasting the Marx-Bakunin conflict and linking First International debates to later revolutionary politics, especially the Russian Revolutions of 1905 and 1917.

Key Arguments: The French Revolution did not just inspire revolution; it created enduring ideological camps that structured 19th-century politics. The 'social question' emerged from the failure of merely political revolution to produce economic equality. Utopian socialism sought to solve inequality through reason, science, and model communities, but lacked the power to transform society broadly. The defeats of 1848 forced radicals to choose among secret vanguardism, mutualist/anarchist alternatives, or political-national liberation strategies. The First International was designed as a broad umbrella, not a doctrinally uniform party, which made it powerful but inherently conflict-ridden. Marx’s key contribution was insisting that workers must seize political power themselves and that economic emancipation must take precedence over purely political reform. The later Marx-Bakunin split inside the International would shape the future divide between communism and anarchism. These debates matter because they form the intellectual and organizational prehistory of the Russian Revolution.

Data Points: Year of the founding meeting of the International Working Men’s Association: 1864 - St. Martin’s Hall meeting in London Date of the founding meeting: September 28, 1864 - Opening of the St. Martin’s Hall assembly Approval date of Marx’s drafts: November 1, 1864 - Inaugural Address and Rules were unanimously approved French revolutionary framework: 3 camps - Spirit of 1789, spirit of 1792, and spirit of 1796 Fourier’s ideal community size: 1,620 members - Each phalanstery was planned as a four-story complex for this population Owen’s factory reform: 10-hour maximum workdays - New Lanark labor reform under Robert Owen Owen’s labor motto: 8 hours labor, 8 hours recreation, 8 hours rest - Owen’s formula for the ideal human day General Council size: 21 men - The executive council guiding the International’s formation Historical test cases mentioned: Franco-Prussian War, Siege of Paris, Paris Commune - Future events that would test the International Polish uprising year: 1863 - Armed uprising in January, with Lithuania rising in February

Pivotal Quotes: "to conquer political power has, therefore, become the great duty of the working classes" — Karl Marx: From the Inaugural Address of the International Working Men’s Association "the emancipation of the working classes must be conquered by the working classes themselves" — Karl Marx: From the general rules drafted for the International "eight hours labor, eight hours recreation, and eight hours rest" — Robert Owen: Owen’s enduring labor slogan

Implications: The episode frames socialism and anarchism as born from the same 19th-century crisis but split over strategy. It shows the First International as the key incubator of later revolutionary ideology, especially the Marxist-anarchist divide that shaped modern left politics.

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