Accidental Tech Podcast
Accidental Tech Podcast

111: That Big Ring Underground Somewhere in Europe

* Follow-up: * Pork food safety * F-16 and F/A-18 control sticks * External displays and the current MacBook Pro * "This never would have happened if Steve was alive" * Comparing past actions versus intentions * The Macalope's take * Marco is sleepy and Casey is envious * Siracusa

Featured Speakers

Marco Arment, Casey Liss, John Siracusa Host

Topics Discussed

Episode Summary

Executive Summary: The episode opens with follow-up on pork cooking temperatures, F-16/F-18 control sticks, MacBook display limits, and a correction about SRAM vs DRAM in chip fabrication. It then explores whether ARM-based Macs make sense, before shifting to a long, candid discussion about Twitter fatigue, public criticism, and the tradeoff between useful audience feedback and toxic drive-by negativity.

Main Topics: Follow-up: cooking temperatures and aircraft controls: The hosts correct a prior claim that pork should be cooked to 160–170°F, noting the U.S. government recommendation changed to 145°F in 2011. They also clarify that the F-16 stick originally did not move but was modified for feedback, and that the F-18 stick does move with a mechanical backup. MacBook monitor-port confusion and Apple product design: They revisit the issue of a MacBook Pro supporting only two external displays despite having three monitor-eligible ports, using it as an example of how product constraints can confuse users, even when the hardware seems physically capable. SRAM vs. DRAM in chip manufacturing follow-up: A major correction is made: the memory used as a fabrication test vehicle is SRAM, not DRAM. The discussion distinguishes SRAM from DRAM, explains why SRAM is a useful process benchmark, and touches on process-node development and Moore’s Law. ARM-based Macs: feasibility, tradeoffs, and strategy: The panel debates whether Apple should move Macs to ARM. They consider performance, battery life, software compatibility, Windows/Linux use cases, virtualization pain, and the complexity of supporting both ARM and x86 Macs simultaneously. Streaming TV, Apple TV, Roku, Fire TV, Plex, and TiVo: A long segment compares streaming devices and content sources. The speakers argue that reliability and seamless playback matter more than feature checklists, praise TiVo for dependable TV recording, and describe mixed experiences with Apple TV, Roku, Fire TV, and Plex. Twitter fatigue, audience scale, and public interaction: The episode closes with an extended reflection on how Twitter can be both professionally valuable and emotionally draining. The hosts discuss moderation, blocking, public criticism, the lack of good middle-sized social spaces, and the strain of being in public all the time.

Key Arguments: Pork should safely be cooked to 145°F, not 160–170°F, and the old higher recommendation was overly conservative. The original F-16 stick had too little feedback, which is why it was modified to move slightly; the F-18 includes a mechanical backup. The prior memory-process claim was wrong because SRAM, not DRAM, is the regular test vehicle used to validate semiconductor process nodes. ARM Macs are technically plausible, but the transition would create major compatibility and product-line complexity, especially for x86-dependent workflows. x86 still acts as the practical common denominator for Windows, Linux, and Mac software ecosystems. Apple may want to spread manufacturing across fabs to maintain leverage and avoid dependence on a single supplier. Streaming TV fails most often because reliability is broken across hardware, software, codecs, and network layers; the user experience must be instant and dependable. TiVo remains the most reliable TV platform in the discussion because it records locally and fast-forward/rewind work consistently. Twitter offers valuable feedback and reach, but its public nature makes it unusually easy for strangers to inject negativity into everyday life. There is no perfect replacement for Twitter’s mix of public reach and useful serendipity; private Slack-like spaces solve some problems but create others.

Data Points: Pork safe temperature: 145°F - U.S. government recommendation referenced in follow-up Previous pork temperature suggestion: 160–170°F - Printed on a tested toaster and criticized as too high Apple TV price drop: $99 to $69 - Referenced alongside HBO Now announcement MacBook adapter price: $79 - Used to illustrate that an adapter costs more than the new Apple TV HBO Now monthly price: $15/month - Discussed as the new cord-cutter HBO offering Reuters TV trial: 30 days free - Sponsor offer mentioned in the ad read Reuters TV price after trial: $1.99/month - U.S. subscription pricing mentioned Squarespace starting price: $8/month - Sponsor pricing for website hosting Harry's starter set price: $15 - Includes handle, three blades, and shaving cream Harry's 8-pack blade price: $15 - Compared with major-brand razor pricing Harry's 16-pack blade price: $25 - Compared with major-brand razor pricing Gillette Fusion 12-blade price: $41 - Used as a comparison point for Harry's Apple TV / MacBook adapter comparison: Apple TV cheaper than the adapter - Highlights the oddity of the OnePort MacBook accessory pricing Apple TV price of adapter vs device: $79 vs $69 - Adapter cost exceeds the Apple TV itself Reuters TV content scale: 2,500+ journalists in 200+ locations - Sponsor description of global news coverage Distance since Twitter pricing?: Not specified - No direct numeric metric, but multiple references to time spent on Twitter and productivity impact Geekbench scores mentioned: 1800–4500 and 1900–4000 - Used to compare iPad Air 2 and new MacBook performance ranges Battery capacities mentioned: 27.3 watt-hours and 39.7 watt-hours - Used in the ARM-vs-Intel performance comparison Process-node example: 32nm and 20nm/14nm - Referenced in semiconductor discussion and benchmark comparison

Pivotal Quotes: "the government now recommends 145 for pork, which is a perfectly sane temperature for pork" — John/host: Correction on the prior episode’s cooking-temperature claim "I'm tired of Twitter. People are so nasty there. Anyway, honestly, I'm pulling away from Twitter." — Marco: Opening explanation of his changing relationship with Twitter "When a man is tired of London, he is tired of life." — John: Used to frame the idea that Twitter fatigue is broader than any one platform

Implications: Listeners are left with a strong cautionary view of platform transitions, streaming reliability, and public social media exposure. The episode suggests future tech wins only if they preserve compatibility, reduce friction, and let users control how public they want to be.

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