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118 - Raoul Pal | Should We Be Scared Right Now?

The current outlook in the markets is... shaky at best. War in Europe. Inflation and political instability in the USA. On top of that, Terra (UST) began its historic plummet—right in the middle of recording this episode. Raoul Pal of RealVision returns to Bankless to synthesize the widespread chaos

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Executive Summary: Raul Pal argues the market is in a synchronized liquidation phase driven by the fastest tightening of monetary conditions in history, with inflation likely rolling over as demand is destroyed. He expects the Fed to pivot toward targeted stimulus/direct transfers as recession deepens, sees strong long-term upside for crypto and tech networks, and views the Terra/UST crisis as a collateral liquidation event rather than existential crypto contagion.

Main Topics: Macro shock: inflation, recession, and tightening liquidity (Priority: 5/5): Raul explains that supply shocks, rising commodities, the Ukraine war, wage pressure, and a strong dollar have created the fastest tightening in modern history, pushing the economy toward recession and hitting risk assets hard. Fed limits and the return of stimulus (Priority: 5/5): He argues the Fed has already been effectively tightened by markets, can’t let collateral values collapse, and will eventually pivot toward targeted transfers or MMT-style support once recession pain becomes undeniable. Dollar strength and global debt stress (Priority: 4/5): The dollar is framed as a global liquidity squeeze mechanism: as growth slows and dollar funding becomes scarce, countries and borrowers feel forced to deleverage, raising defaults and lowering commodity prices. Terra/UST liquidation and crypto fragility (Priority: 5/5): The UST depeg and Luna Foundation Bitcoin sales are treated as a margin call on a leveraged system. Raul sees it as a stress test for algorithmic stablecoins and a likely catalyst for more regulation. Crypto and tech as long-duration network assets (Priority: 4/5): Despite volatility, Raul remains constructive on Bitcoin, Ethereum, and growth tech because adoption networks keep expanding, while lower prices and higher maturity should eventually reduce drawdowns. Ethereum’s relative strength and the merge thesis (Priority: 4/5): He believes Ethereum benefits from fee burn, NFT activity, and the upcoming merge/triple-halving effect, making ETH structurally stronger than earlier cycles even though it remains macro-sensitive. Investor positioning and surviving the bear market (Priority: 4/5): Raul says he has not sold core holdings, is averaging into growth tech, and keeps a basket approach to crypto/NFTs. His key advice is to preserve income stability and keep cash optionality.

Key Arguments: Inflation was driven by supply-chain disruption, commodity underinvestment, the Russia-Ukraine shock, and wage pressure, but forward indicators now suggest demand destruction is taking over. The Fed did not need to do much for markets to tighten; bond yields, mortgage rates, and the dollar already created the tightening, so recession is now the main risk. Real wages and disposable income have been crushed, which makes direct household transfers politically and economically likely as the next policy response. The world is too indebted to allow collateral prices to collapse; central banks will eventually backstop markets because a full debt bust would break the banking and pension systems. UST/Terra is best understood as a collateral liquidation event where the market tests weak hands, not necessarily as a system-wide crypto failure. Crypto’s long-term thesis is debasement resistance, not inflation hedging; it benefits from currency dilution over time, but short-term CPI spikes hurt long-duration assets. Ethereum is supported by network usage, fee burning, NFTs, and the merge; these dynamics make ETH more resilient than many alternatives despite the bear market. The strongest opportunities in bear markets are in mature network-adoption assets and technologies, because volatility compresses over time as ecosystems grow. If people need to reduce risk, the deciding factor is income security: secure income means hold through it; insecure income means raise cash and survive. Regulation will likely favor highly regulated stablecoins and central-bank-linked systems, because governments do not want unregulated currency substitutes. Data and market signals to watch are oil, the dollar, bond yields, and credit spreads; those will tell you when inflation and the tightening cycle have peaked.

Data Points: US inflation vs wages: Prices rose about 8.5% while wages rose about 4.5% - Raul uses this gap to argue real purchasing power has fallen sharply SPX drawdown referenced: About 15%–16% down at the time of discussion - Used to argue there is more pain left before the Fed pivots 2018 S&P drawdown: 22% down - Historical example Raul compares to the current market pivot dynamics 2-year interest rates: Largest one-year rate of change in recorded history - Used to illustrate unprecedented tightening in financial conditions Mortgage rates: Largest increase in history as a percentage - Evidence of market-driven tightening affecting households US dollar share of world trade: About 80% - Raul cites this to explain dollar dominance and global dependency US share of global economy: About 25% - Used to argue dollar usage is still excessive relative to the US economy World debt burden: Most indebted ever as a percentage of world GDP - Basis for his argument that central banks cannot permit uncontrolled deleveraging US debt burden: Most indebted country as a percentage of world GDP in history - Supports his thesis that monetary debasement is the chosen escape valve Crypto VC funding: $42 billion in 15 months - Used to argue the sector has ample capital to keep building through the downturn UST market cap pressure: $1.4 billion sent out of Luna reserve wallet - Mentioned during the live discussion of the UST depeg and reserve sales Luna reserve size referenced: About $3 billion of Bitcoin - Discussed as collateral potentially used to defend UST’s peg ETH drawdown from all-time high: About 53% down - Used in comparison with Bitcoin and altcoins during the bear market Bitcoin drawdown from all-time high: About 55% down - Context for comparing BTC resilience to other crypto assets Solana drawdown from all-time high: About 74% down - Illustrates deeper stress in alternative layer-1 assets Cardano drawdown from all-time high: About 80% down - Illustrates severe altcoin repricing Dogecoin drawdown from all-time high: About 85% down - Used to show speculative assets have been hit hardest Avalanche drawdown from all-time high: About 70% down - Illustrates broad weakness across major crypto assets

Pivotal Quotes: "It's a total fucking shit show out there." — Raul Paul: Opening reaction to the synchronized selloff in crypto, equities, and commodities "I think everybody, I think, in every position is about to lose money." — Raul Paul: Summarizing the broad liquidation phase across markets "He who has cash in a recession is king." — Raul Paul: Advice on positioning and preserving optionality during downturns

Implications: Listeners should expect more volatility and a likely recession before policy support returns. The playbook is to watch yields, oil, the dollar, and credit for the pivot, stay selective, preserve income, and view crypto/tech as long-term network bets rather than short-term inflation hedges.

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