Accidental Tech Podcast
Accidental Tech Podcast

138: Only Microsoft

* Follow-up: * Boxee Box and oddly-shaped TV dinguses * TiVo Bolt feature upgrades for Roamios * Top Gear redux begins (Clarkson's tweet) * A tale of two A9s * Extra battery life? (more at Engadget) * Geekbench results: 1 2 * Test App * Released after we recorded, Apple's statement * The p

Featured Speakers

Marco Arment, Casey Liss, John Siracusa Host

Topics Discussed

Episode Summary

Executive Summary: The episode covers three main tech stories: TiVo’s oddly shaped Bolt and why TiVo needs a lower-end product to survive; emerging evidence that Samsung- and TSMC-made A9 chips in iPhones may differ in battery performance; and Microsoft’s Surface Book, which is praised as ambitious hardware but criticized for compromises and Windows limitations. It also touches on Twitter leadership changes, Tweetbot 4, and a listener-made ATP artwork that the hosts enthusiastically praise.

Main Topics: TiVo Bolt and TiVo’s business strategy: The hosts debate the Bolt’s unusual bent design, why it cannot be stacked on, and why TiVo is intentionally targeting a lower-end market rather than just loyal high-end users. They also note software features that may come to older TiVo models. A9 battery-life controversy: The discussion examines reports that Samsung- and TSMC-fabbed A9 chips may produce different battery life, with the hosts stressing that current evidence is thin and may be distorted by benchmark methodology. Microsoft Surface Book: The Surface Book is described as a genuinely interesting and unusually well-designed Microsoft laptop, but one still constrained by Windows, awkward industrial compromises, and questionable tablet practicality. Twitter leadership and third-party clients: The hosts react skeptically to Jack Dorsey returning to Twitter, arguing that leadership changes may not fix structural business pressures. They also discuss ongoing use of Tweetbot 4 versus Twitterific and the official client. Listener artwork and ATP community creativity: The show spends time praising a detailed fan-made illustration of the hosts recording the podcast, calling out its accuracy, humor, and suitability for a Fracture print. Tesla Model S vs. traditional performance cars: A long off-topic but spirited conversation weighs Tesla trim levels, ludicrous/insane acceleration, rear-facing seats, driving feel, and why a manual or DCT transmission still matters emotionally to the hosts.

Key Arguments: TiVo’s Bolt shape is seen as deliberately provocative and impractical, but the company needs distinctive low-end hardware to attract new customers and remain viable. The TiVo Bolt may not be the flagship product; the hosts argue it is meant to reach new buyers, not satisfy power users who want the highest-end TiVo. Only limited firmware updates are currently confirmed for older TiVos: quick mode and channel logos; commercial skipping is not yet confirmed. The A9 battery-life story is plausible but far from proven because the evidence base is small and may reflect benchmark behavior rather than real-world battery performance. A smaller manufacturing process does not automatically mean better battery life; leakage current, geometry, materials, and chip design details can outweigh nominal node size. The Surface Book is a better attempt at a Microsoft hybrid because it is first and foremost a laptop, not a tablet compromise, and it leverages Microsoft’s unique position as OS maker. The Surface Book’s shortcomings—especially the heavy tablet half, four-hour tablet battery life, and Windows’s limitations—make it less appealing to Mac users but potentially compelling to current Windows laptop buyers. Twitter’s problems are structural and financial, not just a CEO problem; Jack Dorsey may help, but the company still faces pressure to monetize and control its platform more aggressively. Tweetbot 4 is preferred by some hosts because it fits their workflow and gestures better, even though Twitterific and the official client each have their own advantages. The listener artwork succeeds because it captures tiny details of the studio setup and personality of the show, making it both flattering and funny. Tesla’s appeal lies in effortless immediate torque and the removal of transmission friction, but one host still values manual gear control and sound as part of the driving experience. Rear-facing seats in the Tesla were rejected as unnecessary for the host’s family size, despite some safety and novelty appeal.

Data Points: TiVo new customers last year: 150,000 - Used to argue that TiVo needs broader appeal beyond existing enthusiasts to stay in business. Samsung A9 process node: 14 nm - Referenced as the smaller-feature-size fab for one version of the A9 chip. TSMC A9 process node: 16 nm - Referenced as the larger-feature-size fab for the other version of the A9 chip. Possible battery-life advantage: 20–25% - Early anecdotal/benchmark-based reports suggest TSMC A9s may last substantially longer. Geekbench battery score spread: ~2,000 to 3,500 - The hosts mention benchmark results without being fully sure what the numbers represent. Reported battery-test result: 7 hours vs 5 hours - A cited time-based test suggested a sizeable gap between chips, though methodology was questioned. Surface Book tablet battery life: about 4 hours - The tablet half is said to have limited battery life because most battery mass sits in the base. Surface Book video playback: up to 12 hours - A spec on the Surface Book site was mentioned in the context of its docked configuration. Tweetbot 4 price: $5 - Used as an example of users complaining about paying for a Twitter app they use daily. Fracture discount code: ATP15 - Sponsor promotion for 15% off first order. Squarespace starting price: $8/month - Sponsor copy referenced the monthly starting price. MailRoute discount: 10% off for lifetime - Sponsor copy emphasized the lifetime discount for listeners using the link.

Pivotal Quotes: "This product is not for you, people who want the highest-end TiVo." — Marco (quoting TiVo QA): Explaining TiVo’s strategy for the Bolt as a lower-end, mass-market device rather than a flagship DVR. "When are they going to get to the fireworks factory?" — John: Referring to the long-awaited supercar showdown teased for the Amazon motoring show. "This is the no compromise machine that really is nothing but compromises." — Casey: Summarizing the appeal and irony of Microsoft’s Surface Book for hardcore Windows users.

Implications: Listeners should expect more hybrid hardware, more platform-specific strategy, and more device segmentation. The episode suggests that survival in tech often depends less on perfection than on fitting a real market, while benchmark-driven controversies and app ecosystems remain fragile and noisy.

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