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14% for Tech. 1% for Everyone Else | The Weekly Wrap – 3/14/2026

Follow Two Quants and a Financial Planner on Spotify⁠ ⁠Follow Two Quants and a Financial Planner on Apple In this episode, we break down the most important insights from the week on Excess Returns,, with insights from Vitaliy Katsenelson, Jim Paulsen, and Joseph Shaposhnik. Markets today are being s

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Executive Summary: This recap episode stitches together key lessons from Vitaly Katsenelson, Jim Paulson, and Joseph Shaposhnik around humility, portfolio construction, AI disruption, defense spending, valuation, and policy support. The hosts emphasize that uncertainty is rising, so investors should prioritize survival, diversification, and bottoms-up business analysis while watching for broadening market leadership and the effects of fiscal/monetary “juice.”

Main Topics: Humility and diversification in an uncertain world (Priority: 5/5): Vitaly argues the world is changing so quickly that investors need more humility and should express it through broader diversification and lower confidence in any single thesis. AI disruption and software business quality (Priority: 5/5): Joseph explains why AI is forcing investors to reassess software moats, favor learning organizations like Constellation Software, and reduce exposure to businesses that may be structurally disrupted. Two-speed economy: new era vs. old era (Priority: 5/5): Jim Paulson describes the economy as split between a fast-growing 'new era' sector and a stagnant 'old era' majority, with the faster-growing segment increasingly driving overall GDP. Survival-first investing and being 'least wrong' (Priority: 4/5): The discussion frames good investing as staying in the game first—minimizing left-tail risks, not trying to be perfectly right, and preserving the right tail for upside. Defense as a long-term structural growth theme (Priority: 4/5): Joseph sees defense spending as a super-cycle supported by NATO rearmament and geopolitical conflict, making defense companies attractive long-term compounding candidates. Valuation as a headwind, not a timing tool (Priority: 4/5): Vitaly says expensive markets should be understood as a headwind to future returns because high valuation multiples can compress even if earnings grow. Policy juice and market breadth (Priority: 4/5): Jim argues that easier monetary/fiscal policy could support a new bull market and help broaden performance beyond mega-cap tech if the economy weakens further.

Key Arguments: Humility should be translated into portfolio diversification because the range of possible outcomes is wider than usual and confidence in forecasts should be lower. AI is not just a threat to software margins; it may fundamentally change how software businesses are organized, making learning cultures and decentralized decision-making more valuable. The economy appears to have a large and growing split between a small high-growth 'new era' segment and a much larger flat 'old era' segment. Investors should aim to be 'least wrong' by surviving first; downside control matters more than sounding bold or making a perfect call. Defense spending has a multi-year structural tailwind, and current geopolitical conflict may reinforce rather than weaken that thesis. Expensive valuations matter because they create a return headwind through multiple compression, even if business fundamentals remain decent. Policy easing could be the catalyst for a broader market advance if support extends beyond mega-cap tech into the rest of the market.

Data Points: Real new era spending growth: 14% - Jim Paulson said real new era spending is growing at 14%, far faster than the rest of the economy. Growth multiple vs. rest of economy: 14 times faster - Paulson said new era spending is growing 14 times faster than the remaining 89% of the economy. Share of private GDP in new era: 11% - Paulson said the new era currently comprises 11% of private GDP. Share of private GDP in old era: 89% - Paulson described the remaining 89% as the old era economy. Old era growth: 1% - Paulson said the remaining 89% of real spending is growing at about 1%. Overall private sector GDP growth: 2.3% - Paulson cited reported 2025 overall real private sector GDP growth of 2.3%. Old era growth in last 12 months: 1% - Paulson said the old era part of the economy is only growing at 1% over the last year. Potential defense spending increase: $1 trillion - Joseph Shaposhnik estimated NATO defense spending could increase by a trillion dollars over the next 10 years. Portfolio size change: 20 stocks to 30 stocks - Vitaly said he increased diversification, moving from roughly 20 names to 30 names. Software stock decline: 50% to 60% - Vitaly referenced software stocks declining 50% to 60% over the prior four to five months. Bank stock decline from odd headline: 20% to 30% - Vitaly mentioned a small bank stock falling 20% to 30% after a strange penny-stock-related headline. NATO defense target context: 10 years - Joseph framed defense spending growth as a 10-year structural opportunity. Fiscal deficit-to-GDP change: Down from 7.2 to 5.2 - Jim said fiscal deficit spending to GDP fell from 7.2% to about 5.2% over 12 months. Oil shock effect on growth: 0.35% to 0.55% - A cited World Bank estimate suggested a 10% oil shock lowers global growth by roughly 0.35% in the first year and 0.55% in the calendar year.

Pivotal Quotes: "I think today you need a lot of humility. You need a lot of humility because in the world, it's changing so fast." — Vitaly Katsenelson: On why investors should lower conviction and use diversification as a humility mechanism. "I want to be the least wrong." — Vitaly Katsenelson: On how to think about investing in a highly uncertain market environment. "The tail, the small 11% new era piece is now wagging the whole GDP dog." — Jim Paulson: On how a small but rapidly growing part of the economy is increasingly driving headline growth.

Implications: Investors should favor diversification, durable business quality, and process over prediction. AI, geopolitics, and policy shifts could reshape winners, but the biggest edge may come from staying flexible, watching for breadth, and avoiding large downside mistakes.

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