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20 VC 095: How VCs Find Startups and How To Add Value Once Invested with David Teten @ ff Venture Capital

David Teten is a Partner at ff Venture Capital and is also Founder and Chairman of Harvard Business School Alumni Angels of Greater New York, the largest angel group in New York. David is currently co-leading the first study on “how to disrupt the investing industry.” He led the first-ever study of

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Executive Summary: David Tetton explains FF Venture Capital’s seed-stage strategy: broad generalist investing, intense portfolio support, and data-informed sourcing. He argues that value-add VC comes from capital raising, finance support, and recruiting, and warns that superficial branding without substance won’t survive as VC becomes more operational and competitive.

Main Topics: Path into VC and FF Venture Capital’s identity (Priority: 5/5): Tetton traces his early computer obsession, consulting, banking, startups, and eventual move into FFVC, describing the firm as a large East Coast seed investor with a broad, generalist mandate. Deal sourcing and the role of inbound flow (Priority: 5/5): He contrasts outbound sourcing models with FFVC’s inbound-heavy approach, arguing that strong portfolio support attracts deal flow more efficiently than constant hustling. Data-driven sourcing and the future of algorithmic investing (Priority: 4/5): Tetton sees data mining and algorithmic sourcing as promising but not sufficient on their own due to limited private-company data and the continuing need for human judgment. How VCs create portfolio value (Priority: 5/5): He identifies capital raising, outsourced finance/acceleration, and recruiting as the three biggest ways investors materially help startups grow. VC economics, LP expectations, and fund strategy (Priority: 4/5): Tetton discusses the illiquidity of early-stage investing, the long time horizon to returns, and why institutional LPs need clear expectations about fund duration and risk. Competition from AngelList and operational VC (Priority: 4/5): He says generic VCs without a real edge are under threat from platforms like AngelList and from operationally intensive firms like a16z, GV, and others that provide real resources. Sector views: fintech, security, data, drones, and crowdfunding (Priority: 3/5): Tetton highlights areas he believes are attractive for disruption, including security, process automation, alternative data, and drones, while noting that most crowdfunding sites will fail.

Key Arguments: Seed VCs should be generalists because the next major growth categories cannot be predicted in advance. Strong portfolio support creates a flywheel: better help to companies leads to better reputation and more inbound deal flow. Algorithmic sourcing can improve efficiency, but private-market data is still too sparse for it to replace human investing judgment. Brand building alone is meaningless unless a firm has underlying value-add and performance to support it. The most tangible VC value-add is helping companies raise follow-on capital, manage finance properly, and recruit talent. Entrepreneurs can evaluate VC quality by checking references and estimating person-hours of support relative to portfolio size and team headcount. Operationally heavy VC firms are expensive to build and only sustainable for managers truly committed to long-term value creation. Early-stage investors must educate LPs that outcomes are highly illiquid and often take a decade or more to realize. AngelList and similar platforms threaten generic VCs by commoditizing capital and enabling more specialized angels to compete. Future disruption in fintech and enterprise software will likely come from security, automation of manual workflows, and alternative data businesses.

Data Points: FF Venture Capital headcount growth: 10x larger - Tetton says FFVC grew from 3 people to over 27 employees. FF Venture Capital headcount: over 27 people - Current size of the firm mentioned in the interview. Portfolio write-off rate: one out of six - Tetton says FFVC’s write-off rate is well below industry norms. Annual inbound deal flow: over 2,000 companies per year - FFVC receives this many inbound companies annually. Annual investments: approximately one dozen per year - Number of new companies FFVC invests in each year. Geographic concentration: about 40% - Share of portfolio in the New York tri-state area. Active portfolio companies: about 60 - Tetton’s estimate of FFVC’s active portfolio companies. Engaged portfolio coverage: about two-thirds - Share of active portfolio companies with significant FFVC involvement. Employees in finance/acceleration team: 9 accountants - Team providing outsourced CFO services to portfolio companies. External VC relationships: over 200 - Number of other VCs that have written follow-on checks in FFVC companies. Company stage for in-house CFO: about 30 employees - Typical point at which portfolio companies hire their own CFO. Angel investing studies: 12 different academic studies - Tetton cites studies supporting angel investing returns. Median returns: 18% to 54% - Range of returns cited from academic studies on angel investing. Crowdfunding sites: over 500 - Tetton notes the crowded crowdfunding market and expects most sites to fail. Ionic Security funding: over $75 million - Amount raised since FFVC initially invested. Skycatch partnership: large-scale partnership with Komatsu - Described as a major commercial relationship validating the company.

Pivotal Quotes: "Brand building is a bit of a farce unless you have something underneath it to sell." — David Tetton: On why VC firms need real differentiation and performance, not just marketing. "The top three most important ways that we have found to support our companies." — David Tetton: Introducing his framework for how VCs add value: capital raising, finance/acceleration, and recruiting. "The coin box that rattles the most has the fewest coins." — David Tetton: A Yiddish proverb used to warn against loud investors who lack substance.

Implications: Listeners should expect VC to become more operational and data-aware, with real value-add mattering more than brand. For founders, choosing investors should mean assessing resources, not just reputation. For VCs, generic models may be squeezed by platforms and specialized operators.

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