Accidental Tech Podcast
Accidental Tech Podcast

303: Your Mahogany World

* Follow-up: * Another iSH and youtube-dl update * Unknown encoder 'copy' * Github issue * Maybe 8K is all about @3x? * PenTile * More theories on Apple price increases * Comparing modern devices against their premiere versions * What about tariffs? (via Andy Hansen) * Is Apple's prio

Featured Speakers

Marco Arment, Casey Liss, John Siracusa Host

Topics Discussed

Episode Summary

Executive Summary: The episode moves from playful food debate to substantive discussion of Apple pricing, tariffs, component costs, and the growing gap between Mac and iPad workflows. It also covers ISH/YouTube-DL progress, display scaling theory, camera tradeoffs, endianness, and a major Tesla leasing debacle that turns into a broader critique of Tesla’s operational competence and Elon Musk’s leadership.

Main Topics: Food, Italian desserts, and recurring show obsessions: The hosts joke about how food keeps resurfacing in their podcasts, then argue over Italian desserts, cannolis, rainbow cookies, and size inflation at bakeries like Alpine and Mike’s. Apple pricing, tariffs, and component costs: A long exchange debates whether Apple is truly raising prices or whether inflation, tariffs, RAM pricing, and product evolution explain some of the change. The hosts still argue Apple is shifting upmarket and neglecting low-end buyers. Mac vs iPad vs Surface: one device or two: A flight experience using both a MacBook Pro and an iPad Pro leads to a detailed argument about whether Apple should bridge the Mac/iPad divide, with Microsoft’s Surface held up as a compelling single-device compromise. ISH, YouTube-DL, and FFmpeg on iOS: The show updates a project to run Linux tools on iOS; YouTube-DL mostly works, but FFmpeg has a copy-encoder problem and extremely slow performance, raising questions about the practical use case and emulation overhead. Display technology and 3x / 8K theory: The hosts discuss whether an 8K 27-inch display at 3x scaling could be useful, then argue about why Apple chose 3x on OLED iPhones but not on Macs. Tesla lease failure and operational incompetence: Marco describes a disastrous Tesla lease renewal: Tesla failed to cancel the old lease, causing over $8,000 in erroneous charges and months of failed support. He concludes Tesla’s operations are dangerously broken and blames Elon Musk. Camera quality, endianness, and value food picks: Shorter Ask ATP segments cover real cameras vs iPhones, why endianness matters, and what foods give maximum quality for minimum effort (ice cream, nuts, Parmesan, strawberries, store-bought pie, etc.).

Key Arguments: Apple’s prices are increasing in a real sense, especially on entry-level products and the low end of major product lines, even if some original-product comparisons can be misleading. Tariffs and component costs do contribute to higher prices, but they do not fully explain Apple’s across-the-board move upward. Apple is neglecting the low end by shifting the whole pricing structure to the right instead of offering genuinely good affordable current-generation products. The Mac/iPad split is increasingly painful for users who want one device that can do everything; Microsoft’s hybrid Surface approach looked more practical in real use. ISH’s usefulness depends on whether FFmpeg copy/muxing can be fixed; if it does, the emulation stack may still be acceptable for practical downloads. Tesla’s service and lease administration are so broken that even a good product can become untrustworthy, especially when financing or lease turn-ins depend on the company doing basic tasks correctly. A real camera still beats a phone in many situations because of sensor size, glass, reach, and low-light physics, even if phone cameras have superior convenience and computational smarts. Endianness has no universal “correct” answer; it depends on context and abstraction level, though big-endian feels more natural at higher levels. The best high-value foods are those requiring almost no effort but delivering great taste; examples discussed include ice cream, roasted nuts, Parmesan, strawberries, and certain pre-made or frozen items.

Data Points: Apple iPad launch price: $500 - Used in a discussion arguing that current iPad pricing is not simply a straight increase from the original launch price. Cheapest full-size iPad price: $350 - Cited as evidence that some Apple products are actually cheaper than their original launch counterparts. Original iPhone two-year cost: $1,815 - Compared against newer iPhone pricing to argue that inflation-adjusted costs are more nuanced than they appear. Cheapest AT&T iPhone 3G two-year cost: $1,975 - Referenced in the Apple pricing debate as a comparison point. Original iPhone inflation-adjusted cost: $1,995 - Used to compare against newer iPhone models and show some current devices are not more expensive in adjusted terms. New iPhone XR cost vs original iPhone: Over $200 less than adjusted original iPhone cost - Stuart Lord’s feedback argued this undercuts a simple ‘Apple always charges more now’ claim. Original MacBook Air launch price: $1,799 - Used as an inflation-adjusted comparison in the pricing discussion. New MacBook Air starting price: $1,199 - Presented as the cheapest new-generation MacBook Air debut ever, despite criticism of low-end specs. RAM price change: ~280% increase - Jonathan Dietz cited DDR4 SDRAM pricing rising dramatically instead of falling, affecting device component costs. Expected SDRAM trend: ~50% decrease (instead of actual increase) - Compared with observed RAM market behavior from June 2016 to February 2018. ISH / YouTube-DL startup time: About 1 minute - John noted that downloads take a long time to begin under ISH, though throughput is reasonable once started. FFmpeg behavior in ISH: Extremely slow; frame-by-frame, around 24 fps theoretical baseline - Used to illustrate how slow video processing is under emulation. 8K 3x display size estimate: About 27 to 30 inches - Andreas Netzman’s point that 3x scaling on an 8K panel could fit a desktop-sized display. Tesla lease problem amount: Over $8,000 - Marco says Tesla billed him for remaining lease payments after failing to process early termination correctly. Tesla dealership delivery volume: About 50 new car deliveries a day - Sales/service center was described as unusually packed due to Model 3 demand. Model S lease renewal timing: Mid-September - Marco turned in the old car and took the new one early, expecting Tesla to cancel the prior lease. Number of months until issue surfaced: About 1-2 months - He noticed continued billing about a month later and still had no resolution after weeks of calls. Car service center contact attempts: ~15 calls - Marco reported repeated failed attempts to reach Tesla’s new vehicle/delivery department. Apple Watch / iPhone / iPad usage example: 1 Surface device vs 2 Apple devices - A plane anecdote contrasts one hybrid device with the need to carry both a laptop and iPad for different tasks. Camera body cost: $500 - John’s Olympus OM-D EM10 Mark III body was used as an example of a reasonably priced real camera. Lens cost range: $500 to $1,000 each - John described the lenses used with his micro four-thirds setup. Apple MacBook Air low-end storage example: 128 GB SSD - Marco criticized this as inexcusable for the new MacBook Air.

Pivotal Quotes: "the universal law of podcasting with John Syracusa is that on an infinite time scale, it all goes back to food." — Narrator/host banter: Early joke establishing the show’s recurring drift into food discussion. "I am tired of the way he runs this company." — Marco: Marco’s blunt conclusion after detailing Tesla’s lease and service failures and blaming Elon Musk. "Apple can make a really good phone for way less than they're currently selling a phone." — John: Part of the argument that Apple is choosing higher margins and abandoning the low end.

Implications: Listeners should expect more premium pricing, more pressure to choose between Apple devices, and more user frustration if companies neglect low-end value or operations. Tesla’s example shows how product quality can be undermined by bad administration.

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