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347: Not Enough Carrot to Take the Stick

* Pre-show: Casey's computer and 👽 * Follow-up: * Where is FaceTime attention correction? * "Coming this Spring" * October expectations * Noise-canceling AirPods * Disposable AirPods * "Battery service" * 99% Invisible: National Sword * Catalina * Homebrew Bundle * Go64 * An

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Marco Arment, Casey Liss, John Siracusa Host

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Episode Summary

Executive Summary: The episode covers Apple’s latest software and hardware rumors, the hosts’ frustration with Catalina, the tradeoffs of sealed-battery AirPods, the lack of documentation/testing in Apple’s APIs, and practical consumer-tech recommendations. A recurring theme is Apple shipping unfinished or delayed features while users weigh convenience against durability, repairability, and trust.

Main Topics: Apple hardware/event rumors and product timing: The hosts debate whether Apple will hold an October event and what could appear there: 16-inch MacBook Pro, AirPods with noise cancellation, new Apple TV, HomePod, Tile-like tracker tags, and possibly iPads later. Catalina adoption and upgrade hesitation: Marco and John describe why they are reluctant to move desktop machines to Catalina: 32-bit app loss, permission friction, quality concerns, and the overall sense that the release serves Apple more than users. AirPods battery service, repairability, and environmental impact: The group revisits sealed batteries in AirPods, debating cost, waste, and whether replaceable batteries would materially improve the environmental picture or just make users feel better. Apple platform engineering, documentation, and API quality: A long tangent critiques Apple’s documentation and API reliability, especially around SwiftUI and Catalyst, arguing that documentation is part of testing and that Apple’s tools feel immature and under-supported. Contacts, family sharing, and shared data problems: Listeners’ question about shared family contacts leads to a call for Apple to support ‘yours, mine, ours’ style contact management, similar to family password sharing. Useful non-tech products and practical gear: The hosts recommend a few favorite non-high-tech tools: electric toothbrushes, an apple peeler, a flashlight, and a cheap but excellent Victorinox chef’s knife. Amazon marketplace confusion and counterfeit/duplicate listings: A long anecdote about buying the wrong replacement bell repeatedly illustrates how Amazon listings and third-party sellers can obscure the real manufacturer and send incorrect goods.

Key Arguments: Apple still may have an October event because several rumored products appear to be waiting: a 16-inch MacBook Pro, new AirPods, Apple TV hardware, HomePod updates, and Tile-like tags. Catalina is not an obvious user upgrade for desktop machines because the benefits are limited while the costs include 32-bit app loss, new permission hassles, and quality regressions. AirPods with non-replaceable batteries are inconvenient and somewhat wasteful, but the environmental impact is small relative to broader consumer waste; replaceable batteries might help cost and satisfaction more than ecology. Apple’s documentation quality is poor, and good API documentation should reveal bad APIs early; documentation is not just explanation, it is also a design/test tool. Family contact management is a real problem that Apple could solve relatively easily compared with Photos, because contacts are small, structured, and shared across households. Catalyst feels like a transitional tool, while SwiftUI is the more important long-term direction; however, both are still immature and frustrating to develop against. Amazon’s marketplace structure makes it easy for the same item to be listed under many seller names, which can obscure counterfeit or substituted products and make returns/refunds confusing.

Data Points: Catalina spring timing: coming this spring - Apple’s feature page says some Catalina features, including iCloud Drive folder sharing and communication limits, arrive next spring rather than at launch. AirPods battery service price: $98 - Apple store replacement service for worn-out AirPods batteries, described as less than buying new AirPods. New AirPods retail price: $160 - Used as the comparison price for battery replacement versus buying a new pair. iCloud Drive sharing delay: next spring - Feature page suggests delayed rollout well beyond 13.0/13.1/13.2. Clearbanc capital range: $10K to $10M - Sponsored segment describing equity-free financing for businesses. Linode promo credit: $20 - Promo code ATP2019 for new users. Linode entry-level plan: $5/month - Used to illustrate that the promo code could cover several months. Family contact-related file age: last modified in 2003 - Marco says the oldest file in his Mac library preferences folder dates to 2003, illustrating long-lived upgrade installs. Apple bell price points mentioned: $10, $14, $21, $30 - Different seller prices for the same mistaken bell listing before the correct bell was found. Bell quantity accumulated: 10 bells - Peak inventory of wrong and correct bells while waiting for returns and replacements. Chef’s knife price: $36 - Victorinox Fibrox Pro 8-inch chef’s knife recommended as a great low-cost kitchen knife. Flashlight price: about $60 - Price range for high-quality Fenix flashlights recommended by Marco. March 11, 2011: episode date reference - John checks when ‘No iLife is an Island’ aired to recall a related contacts/sync discussion.

Pivotal Quotes: "I think we could all agree it's a very good sequel." — John: Discussing Aliens vs. Alien as a reference point while talking about nuking Macs from orbit. "There’s not enough carrot to take the stick, I guess." — Marco: Explaining why Catalina offers too little benefit versus too much friction for desktop users. "If you can't properly document your API, the chances are that it works as intended. are slim to none. Documentation forces testing." — Scott Horn (quoted by John): Used to argue that documentation exposes flaws and should be part of the development process.

Implications: Listeners should expect more Apple features to slip and more old apps to break on Catalina. The episode reinforces caution around upgrades, skepticism of Apple services, and a practical preference for tools that are durable, well-documented, and easy to share or repair.

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