Accidental Tech Podcast
Accidental Tech Podcast

432: I Shouldn’t Need to Wiggle

* Pre-show: Compacted sugar * Fun Dip * SweetTarts * Candy Cigarette * Big League Chew * Follow-up: * John’s Jade/M1X Twitter thread * High resolution image * Chiplet * AMD Discussing X3d Die stacking * Keeping Up Moore’s Law with Chiplets * Chiplet vs. Monolithic * Some speculation about the next M

Featured Speakers

Marco Arment, Casey Liss, John Siracusa Host

Topics Discussed

Episode Summary

Executive Summary: The episode centers on Apple’s chip strategy rumors, Apple TV 4K setup and remote ergonomics, Apple Music lossless/spatial audio caveats, HomePod updates, and practical home theater/porch audio wiring problems. The hosts weigh technical plausibility, cost, and UX tradeoffs while repeatedly contrasting Apple’s elegant hardware/software promises with messy real-world implementation.

Main Topics: Apple Silicon rumor anatomy: Jade C / chiplets / chops: The hosts unpack Twitter-based Apple chip rumors, inferring that Apple may have one midrange die ('Jade C') and scale it via chopped GPU variants or multi-die packages for MacBook Pro and Mac Pro products. They debate chiplets, die size, packaging, and whether Apple would pass savings to customers. Apple TV 4K setup, sync, and remote design: A long, detailed review of the new Apple TV 4K covers migration via One Home Screen, app re-logins, accessibility settings that fail to sync, HDMI cable issues, calibration, and the new remote’s improved but still flawed ergonomics and button placement. Lossless audio, AirPods Max, and HomePod support: The hosts explain why AirPods Max wired playback is not truly lossless due to analog-to-digital conversion, why Bluetooth limits lossless streaming, and why lossless matters far more in production than consumer playback. They also note HomePod/HomePod mini will gain lossless via software. Spatial audio and context-aware listening: They discuss why spatial audio makes sense for video with a fixed screen position but is awkward for music, where the listener moves around. This is tied to broader AR/VR relevance and Apple’s future audio interface ambitions. TV calibration, Dolby Vision, and HDMI troubleshooting: A calibration feature review turns into a discussion of Apple TV’s limitations as a calibration tool, Dolby Vision raised-black issues, and one host’s real-world HDMI debugging that revealed an old in-wall cable could not sustain 4K Dolby Vision reliably. Home audio/porch setup, fans, and HomeKit fan control: A bonus follow-up covers removing RF receivers from ceiling fans so Lutron Caseta controls can drive them directly, plus the hosts brainstorm a cheap AirPlay-based outdoor speaker solution using an AirPlay receiver and separate amplifier.

Key Arguments: Apple may only need two main silicon designs, with higher-end machines created by chopping or combining a single base die rather than designing many bespoke chips. The rumored chip code names likely imply product tiers: a baseline die for mainstream Macs and a larger die for Pro models, with chopped GPU variants and multi-die packages for Mac Pro configurations. The new Apple TV remote is materially better than the previous one, but button placement still fights muscle memory and the touch surface remains a mixed blessing. Apple TV migration is mostly smooth thanks to One Home Screen and iPhone-assisted text entry, but app logins and some settings still fail to transfer cleanly. Lossless audio is mostly irrelevant for end consumers compared with good lossy codecs; its real value is in recording, editing, and production pipelines. AirPods Max wired mode cannot be truly lossless because the signal path is digitized inside the headphones for processing such as noise cancellation. Bluetooth’s bandwidth and power constraints make true lossless streaming impractical in the current AirPods ecosystem. Apple TV’s calibration feature can help if a TV is badly misconfigured, but it does not replace true display calibration and may do little on already decent sets. The HDMI failures on one host’s setup were caused by an old in-wall cable; the Apple TV HDMI test was useful for diagnosing the issue. For outdoor speakers, an AirPlay-based volume-control path is preferable to Bluetooth because it is easier to manage across devices and users.

Data Points: Rumored Jade C Die CPU cores: 8 high-performance cores, 2 high-efficiency cores - Described as the base high-end Apple silicon die in the rumor analysis Rumored Jade C Die GPU cores: 32 GPU cores - The proposed larger die for higher-end Macs Rumored Jade C Chop GPU cores: 16 GPU cores - A chopped version of Jade C Die with half the GPU cores disabled in the blueprint Rumored Mac Pro high-end die config: 2C / 4C variants - The discussion assumes Mac Pro-class products may use two or four of the base dies in a package Old Apple TV network speed: 100-megabit Ethernet - Mentioned as part of the older Apple TV generation being replaced AirPods Max wired audio support: Not completely lossless - Apple support document notes analog-to-digital conversion in the cable path Apple Lightning audio adapter support: Up to 24-bit / 48 kHz - Higher sample rates require a dedicated DAC Historical MP3 bitrate: 128 kbps - Used as a reference point for early low-quality compressed audio files Common high-quality lossy bitrate: 256 kbps AAC - Cited as typically indistinguishable from lossless for most listeners Old HomePod audio codec: AAC - Apple says current HomePod playback uses AAC until lossless support arrives in software TOSLINK bandwidth: 384 kilobits per second - Compared against HDMI eARC for TV audio return capabilities HDMI eARC bandwidth: 37 megabits per second - Used to explain why eARC can handle richer TV audio than optical Apple TV calibration adjustment: One-inch phone placement over the screen - The host struggled to get the calibration process to recognize the iPhone properly Problematic HDMI cable age: About 10+ years old - The in-wall cable likely caused intermittent 4K Dolby Vision dropouts Mac Pro price guesses for 4C die: $10,000 to $15,000 estimated; one guess at $12,000 - The hosts wager about likely Mac Pro pricing for the highest-end chip Apple TV remote price: $60 - Referenced when discussing whether to buy an extra new Siri Remote for consistency

Pivotal Quotes: "Sweet tarts are delicious." — John Siracusa: A playful argument about candy hierarchy and taste preferences at the start of the episode "Apple really likes money, like a lot." — John Siracusa: Used while debating whether Apple would undercut Intel-era Mac Pro pricing or keep margins high "It should totally be the default." — John Siracusa: Said about the Apple TV One Home Screen setting that makes migration and setup easier

Implications: Apple’s transition to its own silicon and tighter ecosystem integration could lower costs and simplify product lines, but user experience still depends on polish in remote design, login handling, and compatibility. The discussion also shows that old cabling and legacy home setups can undermine new hardware gains.

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