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#44 Shine On You Crazy Goldman

A website for people who are way too high. Plus, could LSD unlock our better selves? Does PJ even have a better self? We investigate. You can find Tripsit here: http://tripsit.me. The floating orb lives here: http://madebyevan.com/webgl-water/. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.

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Executive Summary: The episode follows PJ Vogt’s investigation into how psychedelic drugs—especially LSD microdosing—might change behavior, empathy, and work performance. It contrasts panic-driven drug use and legal risk with harm-reduction support via TripSit, then explores historical research and modern claims through researcher Jim Fadiman. PJ and producer Fia test microdosing at work, finding subtle mood shifts, increased emotional openness, and some negative effects, ultimately suggesting psychedelics are powerful but not magic.

Main Topics: Tripsit and harm reduction for people who are too high (Priority: 5/5): The story opens with a man calling 911 after getting too high, then introduces Tripsit.me, an online volunteer service where trained sitters help distressed drug users calm down and stay safe. Reality, the volunteer trip sitter (Priority: 4/5): A volunteer named Reality explains the practical and emotional labor of supporting anxious or disoriented drug users online, emphasizing reassurance, safety screening, and simple calming techniques. Psychedelics as a tool for empathy and self-reflection (Priority: 5/5): The episode explores the idea that psychedelics can produce insight, generosity, and emotional openness, not just hallucinations or danger, especially when used carefully. Jim Fadiman and the history of psychedelic research (Priority: 5/5): Jim Fadiman describes early legal research on LSD and mescaline, including creative-problem-solving experiments, and explains how prohibition halted a large body of scientific work. Microdosing experiment at work (Priority: 5/5): PJ and Fia take small doses of LSD over several workdays to test claims about focus, kindness, and productivity, documenting mood changes, awkwardness, and differing reactions. Limits, risks, and the role of context (Priority: 4/5): The experiment shows that secrecy, workplace settings, dosing mistakes, and emotional state shape outcomes, and that microdosing is not uniformly beneficial or predictable.

Key Arguments: People who get too high often need reassurance rather than police intervention, and volunteer trip-sitters can provide safer, calmer support. Psychedelics may increase empathy, self-awareness, and emotional flexibility for some users, especially in structured or supportive settings. Historical psychedelic research suggests real cognitive benefits, including improved creative problem solving, but the field was disrupted by legal prohibition. Microdosing is presented as a potentially low-intensity way to access some psychedelic benefits without full hallucinations, though the evidence is mixed and personal. The workplace experiment suggests that setting and secrecy matter: taking LSD at work created stress, social discomfort, and uneven effects rather than a clean productivity boost. Claims that psychedelics make people kinder or sharper may be partly placebo, though PJ and Fia experienced some genuine changes in mood and behavior.

Data Points: 911 calls: 2 calls in the opening anecdote - A man who got too high calls 911 twice after believing his dream is becoming real. Creative problem-solving experiment: 48 problems, 44 solutions - Jim Fadiman’s early LSD/mescaline study with geniuses solving difficult problems. Research projects stopped: 60 different research projects - Government restriction halted psychedelic research after legalization ended. Disruption in research: 40+ year period - The transcript notes a 40-something-year ban on psychedelic research. Microdose schedule: 1 dose on day one, recovery day on day three, another dose on day four - PJ and Fia follow a structured dosing plan for their workplace experiment. Dosing time: Before 10 a.m. - Instructions for the microdose experiment required taking the dose in the morning. Drugs in first research study: 100 micrograms LSD or 200 milligrams mescaline - Fadiman describes the doses used in his creative problem-solving experiment. Duration of one full trip example: About half a day - Jim describes full acid trips as something you buckle in for over many hours.

Pivotal Quotes: "You have expanded outside of the box of your prior conditioning." — Jim Fadiman: Jim explains the core ego-dissolving insight he associates with psychedelic experiences. "I think that you are being sold a bill of goods by a cuckooberry." — Alex Goldman: Alex reacts skeptically to the idea that microdosing will reliably improve work performance or mood. "The thing that I feel that I have not felt before right now is like the world feels really, really big and actually really connected." — PJ Vogt: PJ describes a moment during the microdosing experiment when he feels small, calm, and connected to the world.

Implications: The episode suggests psychedelics may have real therapeutic or emotional effects, but outcomes depend heavily on dosage, setting, and intent. For listeners and industry, it argues for caution, harm reduction, and better research rather than hype.

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