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A New Middle East?

For decades, Israel has wanted American support to bomb Iranian nuclear sites. But U.S. presidents, both Republican and Democrat, have resisted — until President Trump. So, what changed? And what are the likely consequences of that decision? Aaron David Miller is a senior fellow at the Carnegie Endo

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Executive Summary: Aaron David Miller argues the U.S. strike on Iran’s nuclear sites was a tactical, not strategic, move that may have set back Iran’s program but did not eliminate it. He frames the episode as part of Israel’s growing escalation dominance and a wider Middle East marked by dysfunction, weak leadership, and shifting power toward Israel, Iran, Turkey, and the Gulf.

Main Topics: U.S. strikes on Iran and their uncertain impact (Priority: 5/5): Miller says the bombing may have damaged Iran’s nuclear program, but the true extent is unclear and claims of total obliteration are doubtful. He views the operation as a risky judgment call rather than a clear success. Israel’s escalation dominance (Priority: 5/5): A central thesis is that Israel now controls the pace and intensity of conflict with Hamas, Hezbollah, and Iran in ways its adversaries cannot match, reshaping regional deterrence and military dynamics. Trump’s transactional approach and reversal of precedent (Priority: 4/5): Miller portrays Trump as a situational president without a coherent strategy, yet one willing to break from prior U.S. policy and give Israel the capability and political cover it long sought. Iran’s nuclear status and regime behavior (Priority: 4/5): He argues Iran remains a nuclear threshold state with significant latent capacity, while Supreme Leader Khamenei’s priority is preserving the regime rather than risking escalation that could endanger it. The broken and fragmented Middle East (Priority: 4/5): Miller describes the region as dysfunctional, with state failure, authoritarianism, and weakened Arab centrality. He says power has shifted toward the Gulf and non-Arab states such as Israel, Turkey, and Iran. Limits of diplomacy and the JCPOA debate (Priority: 4/5): He defends the JCPOA as flawed but functional and says Trump-era negotiations were unlikely to succeed because the sides could not bridge the gap between zero enrichment and Iran’s insistence on enrichment rights. Leadership as the missing ingredient (Priority: 5/5): Miller repeatedly emphasizes that escalation dominance alone cannot produce durable peace or stable arrangements without leaders in Israel, Iran, Washington, and among Palestinians willing to prioritize public welfare over political survival.

Key Arguments: The strike may have delayed Iran’s program, but available evidence does not support claims that it was totally destroyed. Israel has achieved escalation dominance over Hamas, Hezbollah, and Iran, giving it unmatched ability to set the tempo of conflict. Trump’s behavior was transactional and opportunistic, not grounded in a durable Middle East strategy. The JCPOA was imperfect but was functioning as a restraint mechanism through inspections and constraints. The key unresolved issue is whether military pressure can be converted into lasting political arrangements; Miller is skeptical because the region lacks effective leadership. Iran’s best response, from Khamenei’s perspective, is calibrated retaliation that preserves the regime rather than validating Israeli or American escalation. A regional “new Middle East” is unlikely without leaders willing to make hard compromises on Gaza, Lebanon, Syria, and Iran. The only permanent way to stop Iran from getting a bomb would be regime change or a fundamental shift in Iranian political intent, which is not realistic in the near term.

Data Points: U.S. strikes on Iranian nuclear sites: 3 strikes - The transcript says the United States completed three strikes on Iranian nuclear sites. Iran response: 1 missile strike on Al-Udid Air Base in Qatar - Iran retaliated with a symbolic missile attack on the largest U.S. military base in the Middle East. Setback estimate: months - The Defense Intelligence Agency reportedly assessed Iran’s nuclear program was set back only by months. Setback estimate range: six months to two years - Miller cites varying public assessments of how far Iran’s program may have been delayed. Supreme Leader age: 86 - Miller refers to Ali Khamenei as 86 years old. Iranian population: 90 million - He describes Iran as a major enduring state with substantial scale and capability. Negotiation rounds: 6 rounds - He says Trump-era talks with Iran never had a chance and mentions six rounds separated by about a week and a half. Trump deadline: 2 months - Miller says Trump set an unrealistic two-month deadline for negotiations with Iran. Israeli deaths from Iranian missile strikes: 3-5 - He notes ballistic missiles caused the deaths of three, four, or five Israelis during the conflict. Missing fissile material: 800 pounds - He says 800 pounds of highly enriched uranium fissile material went missing after the strikes.

Pivotal Quotes: "we basically have two countries that have been fighting so long and so hard that they don't know what the fuck they're doing" — Donald Trump: Opening audio clip describing the Israel-Iran conflict after the ceasefire and exchanges of strikes. "The only person I trust on this right now is Rafael Grossi" — Aaron David Miller: Miller expresses skepticism about White House claims that Iran’s nuclear program was obliterated. "Israel controls the pace, the focus, the intensity of military conflict with its three key adversaries, Hamas, Hezbollah, and Iran" — Aaron David Miller: Core thesis on Israel’s current military advantage in the region.

Implications: The episode suggests military action may delay Iran but won’t solve the nuclear or regional conflict without diplomacy and credible leadership. Expect continued instability, weakened faith in U.S.-Iran talks, and a more militarized, transactional Middle East.

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