The a16z Podcast
The a16z Podcast

a16z Podcast: Messaging is the Medium

The potential to turn messaging into a platform is driving much of the excitement in mobile, says a16z’s Benedict Evans. It's a platform through which other apps flow (and where all the users get aggregated). Take for example Facebook's recent annou...

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a16z HostBenedict Evans Guest

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Episode Summary

Executive Summary: The discussion argues that smartphones have become social platforms where apps, notifications, identity, and sharing mechanisms can bypass much of the friction that once made network competition hard. Benedict Evans explains how Facebook’s Messenger strategy aims to pull emerging behaviors and app content into its own platform, creating a new layer of distribution and control while challenging Apple, Google, and independent app developers.

Main Topics: Smartphones as social platforms (Priority: 5/5): Mobile devices remove much of the friction that limited social-network switching on the desktop web: apps can access contacts, camera, location, push notifications, and home-screen placement, making sharing and onboarding far easier. The second wave of social apps and behaviors (Priority: 4/5): Beyond simple messaging, the next phase includes platforms like WeChat and behavior-driven apps like Instagram and Snapchat that exploit new user psychology or embed services within messaging. Facebook Messenger as a platform layer (Priority: 5/5): Facebook’s Messenger strategy is to let websites send messages to users and let apps inject shareable content into Messenger, effectively turning Messenger into a distribution channel and mini app store. Notifications as a new runtime (Priority: 5/5): Notifications on iOS and Android are increasingly becoming a primary interaction layer, with actionable payloads, images, and watch-based interactions, potentially rivaling the app home screen. Identity, payments, and platform control (Priority: 4/5): The conversation explores how Facebook, Google, and Apple each have or seek identity rails—Facebook login, Google+ ambitions, Apple Pay/Touch ID—that could underpin messaging, notifications, and in-app commerce. Developer incentives and platform dependence (Priority: 4/5): Developers may get fast growth by using Facebook’s user graph and Messenger distribution, but they risk building on Facebook’s users rather than their own, limiting long-term independence. The shifting stack of mobile computing (Priority: 5/5): The speakers frame mobile as an unsettled platform stack where browsers, apps, notifications, watches, and voice assistants all compete for the primary user interface.

Key Arguments: The smartphone itself acts like a social platform because built-in device capabilities reduce the friction of sharing, discovery, and re-engagement. Facebook’s acquisitions of Instagram and WhatsApp were not just catch-up moves; they helped shape the competitive landscape and accelerate behavior changes. Messenger can co-opt emerging app categories by giving developers access to 600 million monthly active users, but those users remain Facebook’s, not the developer’s. Facebook is trying to turn Messenger into a gatekeeper and kingmaker for mobile content distribution, including links, stickers, and app-like experiences. Notifications are becoming a separate runtime layer on mobile, increasingly more important than the traditional app icon or browser tab. Apple and Google may both evolve notifications, identity, and payment systems, but the future interaction model on smartphones is still unsettled. A universal messaging standard is unlikely to be the real solution; the notifications panel already functions as a de facto aggregation layer across services. If app-install friction is solved elsewhere, Facebook’s Messenger-based strategy becomes less important because its model depends on current app-discovery constraints.

Data Points: Facebook Messenger monthly active users: 600 million - Used as the scale of distribution developers can tap into via Messenger sharing and messaging. Facebook acquisition of Instagram: Bought early at a price later seen as very good - Referenced as an early acquisition that looked expensive at the time but proved valuable. Facebook acquisition of WhatsApp: Bought for about 10% of its value - Speaker contrasts the perceived price with later value to show Facebook’s aggressive acquisition strategy. Growth potential for social apps: 10, 20, 30, 50 million, 100 million users quickly - Illustrates how mobile social apps can scale rapidly once sharing friction is removed. Timeframe of smartphone social-platform shift: Last 2-3 years - Used to describe the explosion of social messaging apps after mobile reduced friction. Web era duration: 20 years - Contrasted with mobile to show how long the browser/mouse/keyboard model dominated. Google-on-web era duration: 10 or 15 years - Referenced as the period when Google sat atop the web platform stack.

Pivotal Quotes: "the smartphone itself is a social platform" — Benedict Evans: Core thesis explaining why mobile changes social-network dynamics. "they're Facebook's users" — Benedict Evans: Describes the risk for developers using Messenger as a distribution channel. "notifications becoming another runtime on the device" — Benedict Evans: Explains how the mobile interaction model is shifting beyond apps and browsers.

Implications: Mobile is evolving into a contested platform stack where notifications, identity, and embedded sharing may matter more than standalone apps. Developers can gain distribution, but platform dependence deepens; Facebook, Apple, and Google are all racing to control the next interaction layer.

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