Odd Lots
Odd Lots

Anna Wong: Empty Shelves Are Coming Soon

If you look at most of the official hard data right now, there still isn't much evidence of a sharp downturn. Sure, all the surveys are abysmal, but the actual measures of economic activity are ok. But there is already data showing something severe is happening, and that can be seen in the volu

Featured Speakers

Bloomberg HostAnna Wong Guest

Topics Discussed

Episode Summary

Executive Summary: The episode argues that U.S. tariffs on China are beginning to bite in real time: canceled container bookings, falling imports, and uncertain policy are disrupting holiday-season inventory planning and raising the risk of shortages or fewer product varieties later in the year. Bloomberg economist Anna Wong says prices have not fully reached consumers yet, but margins, investment, hiring, and unemployment are likely to worsen, while services disinflation may offset some goods inflation.

Main Topics: Tariff shock hitting supply chains (Priority: 5/5): The hosts and guest focus on plunging container bookings and declining imports from China and South Korea as evidence that tariffs are already disrupting trade flows and inventory replenishment. Holiday-season inventory risk (Priority: 5/5): Anna Wong warns that spring is the critical planning and ordering window for Halloween and Christmas goods, so current tariff uncertainty could translate into empty shelves or reduced variety later in the year. Where tariff costs are showing up in prices (Priority: 5/5): The discussion breaks down tariff pass-through from import prices to producer prices to consumer prices, concluding that most costs are currently being absorbed by U.S. importers and margins rather than consumers. Margin compression and macroeconomic fallout (Priority: 4/5): Wong argues that squeezed profits will reduce capex, hiring, and stock prices, with rising unemployment and falling real wages expected as the burden of tariffs spreads through the economy. Services disinflation as a counterweight (Priority: 4/5): As real wages weaken and demand slows, travel-related services such as hotels, car rentals, and airfares are expected to see disinflation, potentially offsetting higher goods prices. Uneven impact on firms (Priority: 3/5): The hosts note that large retailers may survive by negotiating and absorbing losses, while smaller businesses may be unable to pay tariff bills and could fail.

Key Arguments: Canceled shipments and falling import volumes indicate the tariff impact is already moving from policy headlines into the physical economy. The key retail planning window for fall and holiday goods is now; disruption during this period can lead to shortages months later. Tariff pass-through so far is concentrated at the border and in margins, not yet in broad consumer inflation. Uncertainty itself is suppressing restocking because firms face the risk of even higher future tariffs and prefer to avoid being stuck with costly inventory. If profits are squeezed, companies will likely cut investment and hiring, leading to higher unemployment and slower growth. Goods inflation may rise, but weaker wages and slower demand should create disinflationary pressure in services. Small businesses are especially vulnerable because they lack the balance-sheet flexibility and pricing power of large retailers.

Data Points: Episode recording date: April 23, 2025 - The hosts note the timing while discussing the latest tariff developments and market uncertainty. Reciprocal tariff delay deadline: July 9 - Anna Wong says U.S. firms have until then for better clarity on tariffs vis-à-vis other countries. Tariffs on China in February: 10% - Wong references the first round of tariff increases covered by import-price data. Tariffs on China in March: another 10% - Wong says a second 10% increase followed in March. Import-price pass-through: ~100% at the border - Wong says most Chinese tariff costs were borne by U.S. importers at the border in the available data. Core PCE basket share from services: about two thirds - Wong uses this to explain why services disinflation matters for overall inflation. Expected unemployment by end of year: 4.8% - Bloomberg Economics forecast cited by Wong. Expected peak unemployment next year: 5.3% - Wong’s forecast for the later-stage macro impact of tariffs. Holiday planning lead time: at least 6 months - Wong explains how long firms need to plan, order, and place goods for the fall season. Reciprocal tariff clarification timing: 90-day delay - She says the delay means better clarity may not come until July 9.

Pivotal Quotes: "I think we're kind of getting to the rubber meets the road portion of the tariffs" — Tracy Alloway: Introduces the idea that tariff effects are shifting from theory to real-world disruptions. "I think there is a high probability that we may be seeing some empty shelves in the holiday season." — Anna Wong: Her core forecast about the inventory and retail impact of current trade disruption. "The primary burden of adjustment to tariffs fell on stock prices, and also on unemployment and capex." — Anna Wong: Explains where economic pain is likely to show up if margins remain squeezed.

Implications: Consumers may soon see fewer choices and higher prices for some goods, while companies face margin pressure, lower investment, and possible layoffs. Bigger firms are better positioned than small businesses, and the broader inflation picture may shift toward higher goods prices but weaker services demand.

🔓 Sign Up for Unlimited Episode Search

About Odd Lots

Bloomberg's Joe Weisenthal and Tracy Alloway analyze the weird patterns, the complex issues and the newest market crazes. Join the conversation every Tuesday and Thursday for interviews with the most interesting minds in finance, economics and markets.

View all episodes from Odd Lots