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At The Money: The Right Way to Spend Your Money in Retirement

One of the biggest challenges of retirement is actually spending your money! After decades of working, saving, and investing, pivoting to spending down your accumulated wealth can be surprisingly difficult. Christine Benz is the Director of Personal Finance and Retirement Planning at Morningstar. Sh

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Executive Summary: Christine Benz argues retirees often struggle to shift from saving to spending, even when they can afford it, because of identity, fear of portfolio decline, and uncertainty about long-term care, markets, and inflation. She recommends flexible withdrawals, annual portfolio reviews, granular budgeting, and using retirement assets for both lifestyle goals and lifetime giving while alive.

Main Topics: The psychology of spending in retirement (Priority: 5/5): The conversation centers on why many retirees resist drawing down savings, viewing spending as emotionally difficult after decades of accumulation and compounding. Flexible withdrawal strategies (Priority: 5/5): Benz recommends adapting withdrawals to market conditions rather than relying on a rigid rule, taking more when markets rise and less when they fall. Early-retirement spending priorities (Priority: 4/5): She argues spending should often be higher earlier in retirement, when health is better and travel, hobbies, and family milestones are more accessible. Long-term care as a major wildcard (Priority: 4/5): Uncertainty around potential late-life care costs is a major reason people hoard assets and hesitate to spend. Legacy planning and lifetime giving (Priority: 5/5): The discussion highlights giving to children, grandchildren, and charity during one’s lifetime as a meaningful and practical use of retirement wealth. Philanthropy and tax-efficient planning (Priority: 4/5): Benz outlines tools such as donor-advised funds and qualified charitable distributions as ways to reduce taxes while supporting causes. Holistic retirement portfolio reviews (Priority: 3/5): She advises retirees to review spending, taxes, asset buckets, and withdrawal needs annually rather than treating retirement income as set-and-forget.

Key Arguments: Many retirees are underspending, not overspending, and may be unnecessarily reducing their quality of life. Spending hesitation is rooted in identity: successful savers often define themselves by deferral and dislike seeing balances fall. The fear of long-term care costs can justify caution, but it can also lead to overly restrictive spending. Flexible withdrawal rates are better than fixed rules because markets, inflation, and longevity are uncertain. Early retirement is often the best time for travel and other discretionary spending because health and mobility are typically better. Retirement spending should include legacy goals, such as helping family with down payments or education, rather than only consumption. Lifetime giving can have more impact than leaving money at death because recipients often need help earlier in life. Donor-advised funds and QCDs offer tax-efficient ways to donate while managing portfolio concentration and IRA taxes. A 4% withdrawal guideline is only a rough proxy for adequacy, not a complete spending plan. Annual reviews help retirees rebalance, plan taxes, and decide where to replenish cash buckets.

Data Points: Safe spending rate guideline: 4% - Referenced as a proxy for determining if someone has enough, but not as a full retirement spending plan. Long-term care distribution age threshold: Age 70.5+ - Qualified charitable distributions from IRAs were described as available after this age. Qualified charitable distribution amount: Over $100,000 per year - Benz noted the annual QCD limit had been inflation-adjusted to above this level. Life stage of inheritors: 50s or 60s - Used to explain why leaving assets only at death may arrive too late to be most useful. Typical retirement spending trend: Spending tends to decline with age - Benz said this is observed even among very wealthy households. First-home support example: A home down payment - Benz cited her parents’ assistance as an example of lifetime giving with long-term impact. Retirement review frequency: Once a year - Suggested as a practical cadence for holistic withdrawal, tax, and portfolio maintenance.

Pivotal Quotes: "I think this term spending is kind of loaded, and maybe we're a little bit judgy about it." — Christine Benz: She explains why retirees may emotionally resist the idea of spending their savings. "People spend less as they age." — Christine Benz: Used to justify higher discretionary spending earlier in retirement. "I'd rather be safe than sorry." — Christine Benz: Summarizes why many retirees prefer conservative withdrawals despite having sufficient assets.

Implications: Retirees and advisors should plan for spending, not just accumulation, using flexible withdrawals, yearly reviews, and lifetime giving. The industry may need to frame retirement wealth as a tool for living well and helping others, not only for leaving an inheritance.

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