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Audrey Shafer: Why Frankenstein still holds a mirror to modern science

​Stanford’s Russ Altman and Audrey Shafer reflect on Mary Shelley’s Frankenstein and how it illuminates the moral and ethical challenges of modern science. Originally aired on SiriusXM on October 28, 2017.

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Stanford Engineering & Russ Altman HostRuss Altman GuestAudrey Schaefer Guest

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Executive Summary: The episode examines Mary Shelley's Frankenstein on its 200th anniversary as a foundational story about scientific creation, responsibility, and fear of the “other.” Russ Altman and Audrey Schaefer connect the novel to modern debates in genetics, bioengineering, AI, medicine, disability studies, and climate-driven change, arguing that its power comes from enduring ethical questions about what creators owe to what they make.

Main Topics: Frankenstein as a creation myth for the scientific era (Priority: 5/5): Schaefer argues the novel endures because it reframes creation through science rather than myth, making it increasingly relevant as technology shapes daily life. Ethics, responsibility, and creator neglect (Priority: 5/5): The discussion highlights Victor Frankenstein’s repeated failures of responsibility toward his creation, linking the novel to modern debates about parental, scientific, and medical duty. Technology, unintended consequences, and social misuse (Priority: 5/5): The hosts connect Frankenstein to social media algorithms, gene editing, organ farms, and other innovations whose implications may outpace wisdom and regulation. Disability studies and the fear of difference (Priority: 4/5): Schaefer explains how Frankenstein can be read as a lens for examining stigma, othering, and the horror associated with bodies or beings seen as unlike oneself. Medicine, transplantation, and the ‘Frankenstein’ image (Priority: 4/5): The episode explores how medicine evokes Frankenstein through surgery, organ donation, anesthesia, bioengineering, and fears of doctors “playing God.” Interdisciplinary campus engagement (Priority: 4/5): Stanford is using Frankenstein to connect law, medicine, humanities, art, ethics, and public conversation, with events and more than 70 related courses. Mary Shelley’s historical context and climate connection (Priority: 3/5): The conversation situates the novel’s origin in the 1816 ‘year without a summer,’ emphasizing how environmental disruption and social mood shaped its creation.

Key Arguments: Frankenstein remains compelling because it is a creation myth built on science, which resonates more strongly as modern technology becomes more powerful and invasive. The novel’s central ethical question is not just how to create, but what responsibilities creators owe to their creations, whether children, technologies, or engineered bodies. Unintended consequences are a defining feature of many current technologies, from social media algorithms to gene editing, making Frankenstein a useful cautionary framework. The story is valuable for disability studies because it exposes how quickly people label and reject those who appear different, revealing social fear as much as scientific horror. Medicine can both benefit from and be haunted by Frankenstein-like imagery, especially in transplantation, tissue engineering, anesthesia, and physician-patient trust. Frankenstein is useful across disciplines because it provides a shared cultural reference point for discussing ethics, identity, science, law, religion, and art. The historical conditions of the novel’s creation, including climate upheaval in 1816, make it newly relevant in an age of environmental instability and apocalyptic concern.

Data Points: Anniversary: 200th anniversary - The podcast centers on the 200th anniversary of the 1818 publication of Frankenstein, observed in 2018. Publication year: 1818 - Mary Shelley’s novel Frankenstein was published in 1818. Cultural/academic usage: 70+ courses - Schaefer says Stanford has more than 70 courses with direct or indirect Frankenstein connections. Historical climate event year: 1816 - The discussion references the “year without a summer,” caused by volcanic eruption and climate effects that influenced the novel’s origins.

Pivotal Quotes: "It is too rich of a source of inspiration, innovation, and discovery for new things in medicine." — Russ Altman: Opening framing about why data and access matter, connecting to the broader theme of scientific openness and innovation. "This story is about creation, but it's really the first creation myth that uses science." — Audrey Schaefer: Schaefer explains why Frankenstein remains culturally powerful after 200 years. "What does it mean to create something, to have offspring? What is your responsibility to something that is animate or inanimate that you create?" — Audrey Schaefer: She identifies the novel’s enduring ethical core.

Implications: Listeners are invited to see Frankenstein as a living framework for judging new technologies, medical interventions, and social attitudes toward difference. Its lessons are increasingly relevant as science advances faster than ethics, policy, and public trust.

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