The Rational Reminder Podcast
The Rational Reminder Podcast

Bank Runs (plus Jonathan Clements on "My Money Journey") (EP.247)

There's been a lot of interest in the topic of bank runs lately, and in today's episode, we take a look at the most relevant research to help us better understand why they happen and how they can be avoided. Our conversation unpacks the 2022 Nobel prize-winning work of Douglas Diamond and

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Benjamin Felix, Cameron Passmore, and Dan Bortolotti HostJonathan Clements Guest

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Episode Summary

Executive Summary: Episode 247 centers on two themes: how bank runs arise from banks’ core maturity/liquidity transformation function, and a wide-ranging discussion with Jonathan Clements about his new book on how ordinary people reached financial freedom. The hosts also share listener feedback, community updates, and upcoming events, emphasizing evidence-based, simple finance advice and the value of storytelling in money decisions.

Main Topics: Bank runs and banking economics (Priority: 5/5): Ben explains why banks exist, how they make money, and why their core function—transforming short-term deposits into long-term loans and securities—creates inherent vulnerability to runs when confidence breaks down. SVB as a case study in risk management failure (Priority: 5/5): The discussion uses Silicon Valley Bank as an example of concentrated depositor risk, interest-rate/duration mismatch, and the speed at which shared information can trigger withdrawals. Deposit insurance, lender of last resort, and regulation (Priority: 4/5): The hosts outline the main institutional tools that reduce run risk: government-backed deposit insurance, central-bank liquidity support, and prudential regulation, while noting limits when deposits exceed insurance caps. Household investing lessons from bank-run logic (Priority: 4/5): Ben draws parallels between banks and households, arguing that the riskiness of an asset depends on time horizon and liabilities; emergency funds and long-term portfolios should be matched appropriately. Jonathan Clements book review: money journeys and financial freedom (Priority: 5/5): Cameron reviews Clements’ book My Money Journey, highlighting its collection of 30 personal narratives showing many different paths to financial independence and the importance of habits, simplicity, and luck. Interview with Jonathan Clements (Priority: 4/5): Clements discusses why he wrote the book, how contributors were chosen, why stories matter more than abstract statistics for most readers, and what recurring lessons emerged from the essays. Community feedback, meetups, and podcast growth (Priority: 3/5): The hosts share listener praise, in-person meetup reactions, reading challenge stats, and plans for future live events and author interviews, reinforcing the show’s broader educational community.

Key Arguments: Banks are useful because they provide liquidity insurance to depositors by pooling many households’ unknown future cash needs and transforming them into long-term loans and investments. The same maturity/liquidity transformation that makes banks economically valuable also makes them structurally vulnerable to bank runs if depositors lose confidence. A bank can fail from a run even if its assets are high credit quality; duration losses and forced sales can still make it insolvent or illiquid. SVB combined concentrated, highly correlated depositors with significant duration exposure, making it especially susceptible to panic once confidence weakened. Deposit insurance and central-bank backstops are crucial because they create credible assurances that can prevent self-fulfilling runs. For individuals, the “risk-free” asset depends on liability timing; short bills may be risky for long-term goals, while long bonds can be risky for short-term needs. Jonathan Clements argues that financial success is more about saving behavior, simplicity, and avoiding major mistakes than about finding a perfect investing strategy. Clements emphasizes that personal finance stories are compelling because people respond more to narratives than to statistics, and those narratives often reveal common themes like parental influence, luck, and reaching “enough.” Many people only change their financial behavior after a major life shock—divorce, death, job loss, or other setbacks—that forces a reset in priorities. The podcast continues to position itself as evidence-based, plainspoken, and focused on both financial decision-making and life goals, not just returns.

Data Points: Podcast episode: 247 - Current episode discussed at the start of the transcript Guest/book contributor count: 30 people - Jonathan Clements’ book includes 30 money journeys, including his own Clements’ prior writing output at WSJ: Over 1,000 articles - Mentioned in review of his earlier episode Savings example: More than $100,000 - Clements described his son saving this amount from a $30,000 annual PhD stipend over seven years PhD stipend example: $30,000 per year - Used to illustrate the impact of frugal habits Early-saving tipping point: 12 to 15% savings for 12 to 15 years - Clements’ rule-of-thumb for reaching a point where portfolio growth outpaces new savings Long-term treasuries in 2022: Dropped more than 30% in nominal terms - Used to show that “risk-free” depends on horizon Advanced book release date: April 25 - Jonathan Clements’ book release date Meetup attendance in Ottawa: About 15 people - Estimated turnout shared by the hosts Meetup attendance in Montreal: About 20–25 people - Estimated turnout shared by the hosts Podcast ratings milestone: 1,030 ratings - The show crossed 1,000 ratings and then added 31 more Community reading challenge participants: 404 people - 23 and 23 reading challenge participation Books read in challenge: 1,133 books - Total books logged so far this year Challenge completions: 5 people - Participants who already completed 23 books Book reviews in challenge: 83 reviews - Reader reviews available in the reading challenge Monthly supporters: About 10 people - Community membership supporters mentioned by the hosts

Pivotal Quotes: "the thing that makes banking useful also exposes it to the risk of bank runs" — Benjamin Felix: Core explanation of why bank runs are inherent to banking, not just a management failure "A suboptimal portfolio you can execute is better than an optimal one that you can't." — Bill Bernstein (quoted by Jonathan Clements): Used to highlight the importance of getting invested with a workable plan "you are an expert on your own financial life" — Jonathan Clements: Explaining why ordinary investors’ stories are valuable contributions to his website and book

Implications: Listeners should think of banks as maturity-transformation institutions whose stability depends on trust, diversification, and policy backstops. For households, the takeaway is to match assets to liabilities and prioritize simple, high-savings habits over complexity. The episode also reinforces the value of personal money stories and community learning.

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A weekly reality check on sensible investing and financial decision-making, from three Canadians. Hosted by Benjamin Felix, Cameron Passmore, and Dan Bortolotti, Portfolio Managers at PWL Capital.

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