The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett

Best Moment: The One Thing You Should Never Do Before Bed: Dr Cheri Mah

In this episode, Dr. Cheri Mah, a renowned sleep physician and performance expert, delves into practical strategies for enhancing sleep quality. She addresses common habits From how you can use sound to help you fall asleep, the ideal room temperature and the potential downsides of evening showers.

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Executive Summary: The discussion focuses on practical sleep optimization tips: using audio like podcasts or radio if it helps relaxation, avoiding bright TV light before bed, reducing noise with white noise machines or earplugs, keeping the bedroom cool, timing hot showers earlier, and using light pre-sleep snacks to avoid hunger without disrupting sleep. The advice is highly personalized and framed as small, sustainable changes rather than rigid rules.

Main Topics: Sleep-friendly audio and bedtime relaxation (Priority: 5/5): The speaker says background audio like radio or podcasts is fine if someone is already accustomed to it and finds it calming, but warns against bright TV light because it can be psychologically stimulating before sleep. Noise management for better sleep continuity (Priority: 5/5): White noise machines and earplugs are recommended to mask disruptive sounds such as garbage trucks or construction, with mention of newer adaptive devices that respond to sudden noises. Bedroom temperature and sleep quality (Priority: 5/5): A cooler room is presented as beneficial for falling and staying asleep, with guidance to gradually lower the temperature and even use mattress technology to accommodate differing bed partner preferences. Timing showers and baths (Priority: 4/5): Hot showers or baths are advised earlier in the evening rather than immediately before bed because they raise core temperature; moving them earlier may help the natural nighttime temperature drop and support deeper sleep. Managing late-night hunger with pre-sleep snacks (Priority: 5/5): Instead of heavy meals right before bed, the speaker recommends small snacks combining complex carbs and lean protein to prevent hunger from disrupting sleep during the night. Flexible, individualized sleep strategies (Priority: 4/5): Throughout the exchange, the advice emphasizes experimentation and tailoring sleep habits to the listener’s schedule, preferences, and environment rather than following rigid blanket rules.

Key Arguments: Background audio is acceptable if it already helps the listener relax, but TV light before bed is discouraged due to stimulation. White noise can improve sleep by masking uncontrollable external sounds and may help people stay asleep longer. A cooler sleep environment is generally more conducive to sleep, with 60 to 67 degrees Fahrenheit cited as an effective range. Hot showers/baths should be taken earlier to avoid conflicting with the body’s need to lower core temperature for sleep. Pre-sleep snacks are preferable to going to bed hungry or eating a heavy meal right before bed, especially for late schedules. Good pre-sleep snacks should combine slow-digesting carbs and protein to support overnight satiety without major sleep disruption.

Data Points: Recommended bedroom temperature: 60 to 67 degrees Fahrenheit - Suggested range shown to help people fall asleep and stay asleep Recommended shower/bath timing: About 1.5 hours before bed - Allows body temperature to drop after a hot shower or bath Temperature equivalent: About 16 to 20 degrees Celsius - Celsius conversion of the recommended sleep temperature range

Pivotal Quotes: "if you're accustomed to this, I would say that's fine to continue to do so" — Speaker: On sleeping with radio or podcast audio in the background "I am not a fan of having the TV on and having the bright light exposed to you in that hour before bedtime" — Speaker: On why TV is less sleep-friendly than audio-only background noise "we want something that's slow digesting through the night" — Speaker: Explaining why pre-sleep snacks should be balanced and not heavy

Implications: Listeners can improve sleep with small, realistic changes: reduce light and noise, cool the room, move bathing earlier, and choose smarter late-night snacks. The broader takeaway is that sleep hygiene should be adaptable to real life, not idealized routines.

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Steven Bartlett is a British entrepreneur, investor, and author. He’s the founder of Flight Story – a media company – and Flight Fund, an investment fund backing the next generation of category-defining businesses. He created The Diary Of A CEO to share the unfiltered pages of the personal diaries of the world’s most fascinating CEOs, experts, therapists, and leaders – with the hope that their lessons will help both you and him live better lives. DOAC is a double acronym: Diary Of A CEO, but also Dreamers, Open-minded, Awareness, and Connection.This is your corner of the internet to dream boldly, think openly, expand your awareness, and feel more connected. My New Book: https://g2ul0.app.link/DOAC IG: https://www.instagram.com/steven LI: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevenbartlett-123

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