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Bitcoin Stalls, Stocks Soar: The Disconnect That Defines This Cycle

Steve Sosnick on the ratchet effect in equities, the AI bandwidth parallel, Kevin Warsh’s impossible first week, and why crypto is the unsexy trade right now. --- Thank you to our sponsor! Coinbase: Get 20% off the first year of your Coinbase One annual plan at coinbase.com/unchained. Heads up! If y

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Executive Summary: The episode centered on how markets are balancing geopolitics, inflation, Fed policy, and sector rotation. Steve Sosnick argued equities are being supported by strong earnings and AI capex, but remain vulnerable to Gulf-related headline risk, stretched positioning, and supply-demand shocks from large IPOs. Crypto is lagging as capital rotates toward AI and higher cash yields, with ETF ownership making it easier for performance chasers to exit.

Main Topics: Equity rally supported by earnings but distorted by geopolitics (Priority: 5/5): Sosnick said the stock market has a real foundation in EPS beats and positive guidance, but much of the recent move is being driven by repeated Gulf ceasefire headlines that create a ratchet effect rather than a clean risk repricing. AI and semiconductor stocks as the market’s main engine (Priority: 5/5): AI-related names, especially semis, are doing the heavy lifting in major indexes. Sosnick compared the situation to the dot-com era: transformative technology is real, but capital could still be misallocated and not all spend will produce winners. Potential market impact of mega IPOs (Priority: 4/5): Upcoming large AI-related listings could absorb tens of billions of dollars and reverse a favorable supply-demand backdrop created by buybacks and private equity. Sosnick sees this as a possible short-term headwind for equities. Inflation, consumer strain, and the Fed (Priority: 5/5): Core PCE remains elevated and consumer sentiment is weak even when surveys surprise to the upside. Sosnick said inflation expectations and Gulf-driven energy prices are shifting Fed policy expectations away from cuts and toward a more hawkish stance. Fed transition and Kevin Warsh’s challenge (Priority: 4/5): Warsh inherits a committee with shifting views and no clear consensus. Sosnick emphasized that the new chair must navigate skeptical colleagues, changing inflation pressures, and market expectations that have swung sharply from cuts to possible hikes. Crypto lagging behind AI and cash yields (Priority: 5/5): Crypto is described as dull relative to tech equities, with ETF-driven holders more likely to rotate out when performance fades. Sosnick argued that higher rates and non-interest-bearing assets make crypto less attractive in the current environment.

Key Arguments: Strong earnings and positive guidance provide a legitimate base for the equity rally, even if the magnitude of the move is debatable. Repeated Gulf headlines have produced a 'ratchet effect' where stocks keep gains even as oil and bond markets reverse on later headlines. NVIDIA and other AI leaders face a very high bar; beating expectations may no longer be enough to drive big upside. The risk to the rally is not just weak results, but a pullback in AI spending by major hyperscalers like Alphabet or Microsoft. The AI boom resembles the internet buildout: transformative, but not every infrastructure spender will win and some capital will be misallocated. Large IPOs can pressure stocks by increasing supply just as buybacks and private equity have reduced float over recent years. Money-market inflows are not automatically bullish because cash may reflect caution and affordability stress rather than fresh risk appetite. Inflation remains a political and market problem because consumers feel prices rising even when inflation slows; they do not experience falling prices. Higher rates and non-yielding assets hurt crypto relative to cash and other risk assets. Crypto ETF adoption broadened the holder base to more 'performance chasers,' making outflows easier when relative returns fade. Warsh’s biggest challenge is that the Fed is now facing both firmer inflation and less labor-market pressure, reducing the case for immediate cuts.

Data Points: Core PCE inflation: 3.3% - Referenced as the Fed’s preferred measure and described as the highest in years. Headline PCE inflation: 3.8% - April reading discussed as elevated but slightly below expectations. Bitcoin price: Above $73,000 - Level mentioned during the crypto discussion after a rebound on easing geopolitical fears. Ether price: Around $2,000 - Referenced alongside Bitcoin as crypto recovered modestly. Money market inflows: $120 billion - Noted as money entering money-market funds during the month, cited as possible dry powder but not necessarily bullish. Crypto ETF and ETP success: Huge inflows on the way up - Used to explain how ETF access boosted crypto demand and prices. Potential new equity issuance: $75 billion to $100 billion - Estimated size of upcoming AI-related IPO wave that could pressure stock supply-demand dynamics. Rate-cut/rate-hike expectations: From about 2.5 rate cuts priced in to about a 70% chance of a hike by year-end - Illustrates the dramatic shift in market pricing as inflation and geopolitical risks increased. Unemployment rate: 4.3% to 4.4% - Used to argue the labor market is still relatively solid despite some pockets of weakness. NVIDIA earnings beat streak: 14th or 15th quarter in a row - Example of extremely high expectations and the difficulty of sustaining upside surprises. Consumer spending growth: Up only 0.1 percentage point - Mentioned as a muted response despite inflation and other pressures. Time reference for Bitcoin supply growth: About 114 years remaining - Used to explain that Bitcoin is not deflationary; supply is still increasing, just more slowly.

Pivotal Quotes: "You can't dismiss the importance of money flow." — Steve Sosnick: On why ETF-driven flows, rotating capital, and market liquidity matter as much as fundamentals for crypto and equities. "The good thing at the time was that led to huge inflows and obviously price increases. Bad news now is to a certain extent, they're crypto tourists." — Steve Sosnick: On the flip side of crypto ETF adoption: the same performance-chasing investors who boosted prices can become sellers. "It’s very hard for the poll vaulter to clear it." — Steve Sosnick: Describing how NVIDIA’s expectations are now so high that even strong results may not move the stock much.

Implications: Markets may stay volatile but range-bound as geopolitics, inflation, and Fed uncertainty collide. AI remains the dominant trade, while crypto faces capital rotation and a tougher yield backdrop. Investors should watch Gulf headlines, mega-IPOs, and any shift in hyperscaler AI spending.

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