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Care Work in the United States Has Been Broken for Years

Disruptions caused by the pandemic have revealed deep flaws in our supply chain for physical goods. Certain market failures that have been left to fester for years were suddenly exposed. But some parts of the economy were broken long before the pandemic, particularly anything having to do with care

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Bloomberg HostNancy Folbre Guest

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Executive Summary: The episode examines why U.S. child care and broader care work feel “broken,” arguing the issue is less a simple market failure than a fragmented system shaped by unpaid family labor, government subsidies, informal care, inequality, and weak labor bargaining. Nancy Folbre explains how rising costs, labor shortages, and unequal access distort child care, worsen gender and income inequality, and justify more public support.

Main Topics: Care work as a fragmented system, not a single market (Priority: 5/5): Folbre argues child care cannot be understood as one market because it combines paid center-based care, nannies, informal kin care, and government provision. This fragmentation makes standard wage or price analysis misleading. Rising child care costs and inequality (Priority: 5/5): The discussion links rising child care prices to broader inequality: affluent families can bid up prices for scarce care, while low-income families are priced out entirely, creating a selection effect that inflates observed prices. Unpaid care, supervisory time, and the hidden economy (Priority: 5/5): A major theme is that much care work is unpaid or undercounted. Folbre distinguishes active childcare from supervisory time and argues that unpaid labor is a large share of economic activity. Gender, labor-force participation, and motherhood penalties (Priority: 4/5): Child care shortages push many mothers into part-time work, repeated labor-force exits, and lower lifetime earnings, while high-earning mothers face large motherhood penalties that are partly buffered by household income. Public provision and policy models (Priority: 4/5): Folbre advocates more public support for child care, including integration with public education, progressive taxation, and lessons from Scandinavian, French, and New York City models. Care work, health, and social stability (Priority: 4/5): The conversation broadens from child care to elder care and health care, arguing that poor care systems contribute to stress, instability, deaths of despair, and weak social cohesion. Bargaining power and labor market structure (Priority: 3/5): The episode closes on how fragmented, small-scale care providers make worker organizing difficult, while public provision or a single-payer-like structure could improve bargaining power and wages.

Key Arguments: Child care is not just a market good; it mixes paid labor, unpaid family labor, and public provision, so market-failure language alone is incomplete. Rising inequality raises child care prices because wealthy households can pay more, while low-income households are excluded, making the observed market appear costlier. Wages in child care centers stay low because many providers depend on fixed subsidies and regulated funding streams that do not automatically rise with demand. The loss of nearby kin networks and more women in the labor force have reduced informal child care supply, increasing reliance on paid care. Pandemic-era work-from-home arrangements increased supervisory childcare time even as active childcare sometimes fell, revealing hidden burdens on parents. Unpaid care work is economically massive and should be counted because it supports the labor force and social reproduction. Public investment in child care would benefit parents, children, taxpayers, and the future workforce, so costs should be broadly socialized through progressive taxes. Integrating child care with public schools and redesigning school schedules could reduce inefficiencies like early dismissal and long summer breaks. Fragmented care industries weaken worker bargaining power because employers fear losing price-sensitive customers if wages rise.

Data Points: Stock Movers promo length: 5 minutes or less - Bloomberg ad read introducing the separate Stock Movers podcast Long-run U.S. inflation pattern: Services have seen the highest price increases - Folbre cites long-term inflation trends, contrasting services with cheaper durable goods Child care cost examples: $2,000–$3,000 per month - Joe references New York City families paying this much for child care Unpaid work share of GDP: 25%–40% - Folbre describes broad estimates of unpaid work as a share of GDP Paid labor share of total work hours: 50% - Folbre’s mental exercise: about half of all labor hours in the U.S. happen in the paid labor market School day end time: 3:00 p.m. - Used as an example of the mismatch between public school schedules and modern working parents' needs Teacher or child care worker pay trend: Declined in relative terms - Folbre notes U.S. teacher pay has fallen relative to other workers over time University/field example: Seattle human service workers received a really big pay increase when switching jobs - Used to illustrate that public-service workers can see substantial wage gains when moving out of the sector Child age alone restrictions: Under age 9 or even under age 12 - Folbre notes many states prohibit leaving children alone at these ages, creating supervisory care needs

Pivotal Quotes: "the market economy is a pretty, pretty, you know, big, but, but not that huge chunk of the total economy" — Nancy Folbre: On why unpaid work must be counted to understand the true scale of care labor "the problem is we've socialized the benefits of raising children more than we've socialized the costs" — Nancy Folbre: On why child-rearing costs should be more broadly shared across society "What's really interesting about care provision is it involves a lot of paid work, but also a lot of unpaid work, and also a lot of government provision" — Nancy Folbre: Her core framing for why child care cannot be analyzed as a normal single market

Implications: The episode argues for treating care as essential infrastructure. Better policy would mean more public funding, higher wages, schedule redesign, and broader recognition of unpaid labor—changes that could reduce inequality, support parents, and strengthen the future workforce.

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