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Chadd Garcia breaks down WaterBridge's post-IPO value creation story $WBI

Chadd Garcia joins the five timers club and talks about his investment thesis for WaterBridge (WBI). WaterBridge is a recent IPO that manages water from oil drilling, largely in the Permian Basin. Chadd's spent a lot of time on oil services and infrastructure, and he breaks down how this invest

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Executive Summary: The episode argues that Waterbridge (WBI), a recently IPO’d produced-water infrastructure company in the Permian/Delaware Basin, is misclassified by the market as an energy midstream name and should instead be viewed more like a waste infrastructure business with scarce, regulated assets, strong moats, and high-return growth projects. Chad Garcia highlights long-term contracted volumes, rising water cuts, and low-capex cash generation as drivers of meaningful EBITDA growth and potential multiple expansion, while acknowledging regulatory, environmental, and conflict-of-interest risks tied to its relationship with Landbridge and sponsor Five Point.

Main Topics: What Waterbridge does and why produced water matters (Priority: 5/5): Waterbridge processes, cleans, transports, and disposes of produced water from oil wells, mainly in the Delaware Basin. Produced water is a growing bottleneck for oil production, making disposal and pipeline access strategically important. Market misclassification vs. waste-company comp (Priority: 5/5): The central thesis is that investors and analysts are valuing WBI like a midstream energy infrastructure company, when its moat, regulatory scarcity, landfill-like pore space, and recurring disposal economics resemble waste infrastructure more closely. Growth outlook from contracts, volumes, and expansion projects (Priority: 5/5): Chad argues that contract-backed volume growth, pricing above spot, underutilized network capacity, and new capital projects can drive strong EBITDA growth for years, even before considering any multiple rerating. Landbridge relationship and conflict management (Priority: 4/5): Landbridge owns key pore space/land, while Waterbridge owns pipelines and processing assets. The podcast examines whether value could leak between the two, why they remain separate, and how sponsor governance and large customer-shareholders may restrain abuse. Regulatory and environmental risks (Priority: 4/5): The discussion covers Texas permitting, seismicity concerns, New Mexico permitting complexity, and the possibility of short reports or environmental incidents disrupting the thesis. Chad argues Texas regulations already moved toward Waterbridge’s operating standards. Valuation, capital intensity, and free cash flow potential (Priority: 5/5): Using current and forward EBITDA estimates, Chad frames WBI as a high-ROIC, low-sustaining-capex business that could generate substantial free cash flow and support dividends, buybacks, or further growth investments. Permian production trends and resilience of water volumes (Priority: 3/5): Even if Permian oil growth moderates, rising water cuts and the longevity of existing wells may sustain or increase produced-water demand, especially in the Delaware Basin.

Key Arguments: WBI’s business has stronger similarities to waste infrastructure than to conventional energy midstream because it depends on scarce disposal capacity, regulatory barriers, and long-lived contracted economics. The market may be using the wrong comp set: midstream-like multiples today could rerate toward waste-infrastructure multiples if investors appreciate the moat and durability. Waterbridge can grow through minimum volume contracts, pricing above spot, and expansions of underutilized infrastructure, not just through new drilling activity. The Delaware Basin’s rising water cuts make water disposal a structural necessity for oil production, creating a durable demand driver even in a slower oil-growth environment. High incremental returns are possible because new pipelines and pore-space-linked capacity have three-year or shorter paybacks and can be expanded into existing systems. The Landbridge relationship is a feature, not only a bug, because water infrastructure and pore space are complementary and necessary for redundancy, reliability, and customer retention. Potential governance concerns exist, but the sponsor has managed conflicts before, and large customers like Devon owning equity create checks against abusive transfer pricing. Environmental and regulatory risks exist, but Texas has already tightened pressure/volume rules, and New Mexico’s permitting complexity may make meaningful loosening or tightening hard to implement quickly.

Data Points: IPO timing: Late September - Waterbridge recently went public a few months before the discussion. IPO oversubscription: 11x - Chad said the offering was 11 times oversubscribed. IPO price: $20/share - Referenced as the offering price. Share price at discussion: $24/share - Stock was trading about 20% above IPO price. Analyst coverage: 11 analysts - Chad counted 11 sell-side analysts covering WBI. Revenue contracted: Over 70% - Portion of revenue under contract. Spot processing rate: $0.65 per barrel - Approximate spot rate for water processing mentioned in the discussion. Recent contract pricing: Just over $0.65 per barrel - Latest large contract was signed above spot, with a 10-15 year term. 2025 EBITDA estimate: ~$450 million - Chad’s conservative near-term EBITDA view. Longer-term EBITDA potential: ~$900 million by before 2030 - Illustrative out-year EBITDA estimate if growth projects and contracts play out. Incremental pore space: 6 million barrels/day - Access to additional disposal capacity discussed as a major growth driver. Incremental EBITDA from pore space: $1.0-$1.4 billion - Estimated value of incremental EBITDA from current pore-space access. Cost to realize incremental pore space: $3.0-$3.5 billion - Approximate capital required to monetize that additional capacity. Current throughput: 2.8 million barrels/day in 2025 - Estimated barrels per day handled in the near term. Current water cut: 4:1 - Four barrels of produced water per barrel of oil in the Delaware Basin currently. Projected water cut by 2030: 6:1 - Expected rise in produced water intensity over time. Water injection permits managed by WBI: ~40% - Chad noted Waterbridge is responsible for roughly 40% of water injection permits in Texas and New Mexico. Devon ownership stake: 20% - Devon Energy owns a significant equity stake in Waterbridge. Maintenance capex / sustaining capex: ~15% of EBITDA - Estimated using Secure as a comp. Potential sustaining capex at $900m EBITDA: ~$140 million - Implied by applying 15% to the longer-term EBITDA estimate. Current enterprise value: ~$4 billion - Approximate EV at a $24 share price. Current valuation: ~9x EBITDA - Based on ~$450 million EBITDA estimate and ~$4 billion EV. Potential valuation: ~15x EBITDA - Waste-company multiple used as the rerating thesis. Landbridge IPO performance: ~150%+ since IPO - Mentioned as a comparator and sibling company success.

Pivotal Quotes: "Waterbridge is the leading Processor, cleaner, and disposal company of produced water." — Chad Garcia: Core description of the business and its role in the Permian. "The market is valuing it like a midstream pitch, whereas ... if you look at the economics of their businesses ... they look like waste companies." — Chad Garcia: Central thesis that WBI is misclassified and may deserve a higher multiple. "Water is the choke point for oil production." — Chad Garcia: Explains why produced-water infrastructure is strategically important to E&Ps.

Implications: If the thesis is right, WBI could rerate from a midstream-style valuation toward a waste-infrastructure multiple as investors recognize durable demand, scarce capacity, and high-ROIC growth. Key watch items are regulatory change, environmental incidents, and governance/conflict execution.

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