Ted Radio Hour
Ted Radio Hour

Changing Our Minds (2021)

Original broadcast date: Friday, December 3, 2021. Admitting we're wrong is painful--even seen as a sign of weakness. But what if we take a more flexible approach? This hour: how rethinking ideas can be good for our brains and our relationships. Guests include former GOP congressman Bob Inglis,

Featured Speakers

NPR ([email protected]) HostBob Inglis GuestAdam Grant GuestLoretta Ross Guest

Topics Discussed

Episode Summary

Executive Summary: This TED Radio Hour episode explores why changing one’s mind can be a strength rather than a weakness. Through Bob Inglis, Adam Grant, and Loretta Ross, it argues that humility, curiosity, and respectful dialogue help people update beliefs, bridge divides, and hold others accountable without dehumanizing them.

Main Topics: Bob Inglis’s climate conversion (Priority: 5/5): Former conservative congressman Bob Inglis describes how his son, scientific evidence, and faith-based environmental ethics pushed him to reverse his skepticism on climate change and advocate carbon legislation. Rethinking as intellectual growth (Priority: 5/5): Adam Grant explains that changing your mind is not betrayal but evolution, and warns that identities fused with beliefs make learning harder. Thinking like a scientist (Priority: 5/5): Grant contrasts scientist-like inquiry with preacher, prosecutor, and politician mindsets, arguing that truth-seeking requires testing and disconfirming one’s own ideas. The emotional cost of being wrong (Priority: 4/5): The episode examines why people resist admitting error—because of shame, status, and fear of losing face—and why social norms often punish flexibility. Calling in instead of calling out (Priority: 5/5): Loretta Ross advocates accountability rooted in love, respect, and radical empathy rather than shaming, arguing this approach is more effective and less defensive. Accountability and humanization (Priority: 4/5): Ross emphasizes that even powerful people should be challenged, but dehumanizing them reduces the chance of change; the goal is to invite growth, not excuse harm.

Key Arguments: Changing your mind can be evidence of growth, not weakness, especially when new facts overtake old assumptions. Political culture often treats consistency as virtue, even when it rewards stubbornness over accuracy. Thinking like a scientist means treating beliefs as hypotheses and seeking truth rather than defending ego. Rethinking is easier when people are curious and humble, and when ideas are not treated as identity. Respectful dialogue can keep relationships intact and open the door to future change, even when immediate agreement is impossible. Calling out may create public humiliation and defensiveness; calling in uses empathy and accountability to keep conversation possible. Accountability is still necessary, but it works better when people feel seen as human beings rather than enemies or symbols. Effective social change depends not only on what we fight for, but on how we treat people while pursuing it.

Data Points: Congressional tenure: 12 years - Bob Inglis served 12 years as the U.S. representative for Greenville-Spartanburg, South Carolina. ACU lifetime rating: 93 - Inglis cites his American Conservative Union lifetime rating as evidence of his conservative credentials. Christian Coalition rating: 100% - Inglis notes a 100% rating from the Christian Coalition. National Right to Life rating: 100% - Inglis says he had a 100% rating from National Right to Life. NRA rating: A - Inglis reports an A rating from the NRA. ADA rating: 0 - Inglis says he received a zero from the Americans for Democratic Action. AFL-CIO rating: 23 - Inglis jokes that a 23 from the labor union was a mistake and he hoped for a zero. Primary election result: 29% to 71% - Inglis lost the 2010 Republican primary after changing his climate stance. Harvard sophomore study sample: 22 students - Adam Grant describes Henry Murray’s late-1950s experiment on stressful interpersonal disputation. Debate duration: 18 minutes - The law student in the study was trained to demolish each participant’s worldview for 18 minutes. Klan case: 5 protesters killed - Loretta Ross references the 1979 Greensboro killings that helped inspire the anti-Klan network. Greensboro jury result: 2 all-white juries acquitted defendants - Ross describes the acquittals after the Greensboro murders. Floyd Cochran age in movement: 14 years old - Ross says Floyd Cochran had been a Nazi since age 14. Floyd Cochran age at meeting: 35 years old - Ross met Cochran when he was 35.

Pivotal Quotes: "It’s better to be overtaken than to double down disputing the facts." — Bob Inglis: Inglis explains why politicians should reverse course when evidence proves them wrong. "What I believe is not who I am." — Adam Grant: Grant describes separating identity from ideas in order to rethink freely. "Calling in is really a call-out done with love." — Loretta Ross: Ross defines her preferred approach to accountability and dialogue.

Implications: The episode suggests that healthier politics, relationships, and activism depend on curiosity, humility, and empathy. For listeners, the practical lesson is to seek truth over ego, and accountability over humiliation.

🔓 Sign Up for Unlimited Episode Search

About Ted Radio Hour

Exploring the biggest questions of our time with the help of the world's greatest thinkers. Host Manoush Zomorodi inspires us to learn more about the world, our communities, and most importantly, ourselves.Get more brainy miscellany with TED Radio Hour+. Your subscription supports the show and unlocks a sponsor-free feed. Learn more at plus.npr.org/ted

View all episodes from Ted Radio Hour