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China's AI progress

The launch of China's DeepSeek AI tool a year ago sent shockwaves through US markets and Silicon Valley. But now Chinese AI tech is being used by more and more US companies. Our North America Technology Correspondent, Lily Jamali, tells us about it. Also this week: shoppers in Denmark are using

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BBC World Service HostNick Clegg GuestLily Jamali GuestToby Kinsley Guest

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Executive Summary: Tech Life examines how DeepSeek’s rise reshaped the AI race, showing Chinese open-source models gaining real traction with U.S. companies because they are cheaper and customizable. The episode also explores Danish boycott apps that identify product origins, and tests wearable exoskeletons that help people walk farther with less effort.

Main Topics: DeepSeek and the “Sputnik moment” for AI (Priority: 5/5): The show revisits the shock caused by the Chinese chatbot DeepSeek R1, which triggered market turbulence and a rethink of AI competition between the U.S. and China. China’s open-source AI momentum (Priority: 5/5): Lily Jamali explains how Chinese firms such as ByteDance and Alibaba are gaining ground in open-source AI, making models that developers can inspect, modify, and build on. Why U.S. companies are using Chinese models (Priority: 5/5): Pinterest and Airbnb are cited as examples of American firms adopting Chinese open-source models because they can be far cheaper and more customizable than proprietary U.S. alternatives. The irony and limits of the U.S.-China AI rivalry (Priority: 4/5): The segment questions the simplicity of framing AI as a strict national race, noting that companies on both sides build on each other’s open-source work. Boycott technology in Denmark (Priority: 4/5): Two apps, Non-USA and Medometer, help users identify whether products originate in the United States or elsewhere so they can make boycott decisions based on current political tensions. Exoskeletons for walking and labor (Priority: 4/5): Alistair Keen tests a wearable robotic exoskeleton in Nevada, demonstrating how the devices can reduce effort for hikers, workers, and possibly military users.

Key Arguments: DeepSeek’s launch showed that Chinese AI firms can build highly capable open-source models that rival U.S. offerings and influence global markets. Open-source models are attractive because developers can inspect code, customize it, and often use them at a fraction of the cost of proprietary AI. American companies increasingly prefer monetized closed models, but many businesses want cheaper, adaptable tools for specific tasks. The U.S.-China AI story is more interdependent than the “race” narrative suggests, because each side’s models and methods borrow from and build on the other. Boycott apps translate political frustration into practical consumer action by making product origins more transparent. Exoskeletons may be less about replacing normal walking and more about extending range, reducing strain, and helping users reach goals they otherwise could not.

Data Points: Time since DeepSeek R1 launch: 1 year - The episode frames the segment as one year after DeepSeek shook up the AI world. Nvidia market-value loss after DeepSeek shock: nearly $600 billion - CBS Evening News clip cited the company’s one-day value drop when markets reacted. Pinterest cost advantage using Chinese models: as little as one-tenth the cost - Lily Jamali says Chinese open-source models can be dramatically cheaper for companies like Pinterest. PINREC model improvement: 30% more accurate - Pinterest CTO Matt Madrigal says in-house training using open-source techniques improved PINREC accuracy versus off-the-shelf models. Exoskeleton peak power: 1,000 watts - HyperShell representative Toby Kinsley describes the device’s motor output. Exoskeleton battery life at max power: 90 minutes or 5–6 km - HyperShell says the device lasts this long at maximum power. Exoskeleton battery life in typical use: up to 30 km / 5–6 hours - The company says most users can get this range per battery under normal conditions. Languages supported by Medometer: 8 languages - Ian Rosenfeld says the boycott app has been translated for broader European use.

Pivotal Quotes: "these Chinese AI models are the leader" — Nick Clegg: He was cited to underscore the irony that China is leading in open-source AI. "The big reason they're using these Chinese AI models is because they are just so much cheaper, like a tenth of the cost in some cases." — Lily Jamali: She explains why U.S. companies are adopting Chinese open-source models. "it really depends on your goals for what you're trying to accomplish by going outdoors" — Toby Kinsley: HyperShell’s view of whether an exoskeleton enhances or undermines hiking.

Implications: Open-source AI is becoming a competitive lever for Chinese firms and a practical choice for U.S. businesses. Meanwhile, consumer-tech tools are increasingly used for political expression and mobility assistance, showing technology’s growing role in everyday decision-making.

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