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Chris Davis: Banking on Boring, Reliable Franchises

The manager of the Davis NY Venture fund offers his thoughts on how best to sift for bargains post-sell-off, his team’s fondness for financial stocks, and why Berkshire hasn’t made any acquisitions yet.

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Executive Summary: Chris Davis, portfolio manager at Davis Advisors, discusses investment strategies during the COVID-19 pandemic, emphasizing a bottom-up stock-picking approach. He categorizes companies into three lenses: those facing existential threats, those benefiting short-term, and durable businesses at bargain prices. Davis highlights significant opportunities in high-quality industrials like United Technologies and well-capitalized banks such as Wells Fargo and Capital One, while cautioning against speculative energy investments. He stresses the importance of behavioral discipline and stress-testing assumptions.

Main Topics: Investment Framework During Crisis (Priority: 5/5): Davis outlines three lenses for evaluating companies: existential threats (high fixed costs, debt), short-term beneficiaries (online retail, streaming), and durable businesses at deep discounts (industrials, financials). Opportunities in Financials (Priority: 5/5): Davis identifies Wells Fargo and Capital One as the cheapest banks, citing strong capital ratios, stress test resilience, and attractive valuations (5-7x earnings). He argues banks are well-prepared compared to the financial crisis. Behavioral Biases and Investment Discipline (Priority: 4/5): Davis emphasizes avoiding herd mentality, groupthink, and inertia. He uses 'pre-mortem' reports and frames mistakes to learn from them, highlighting the importance of questioning assumptions. Energy Sector Challenges (Priority: 4/5): Davis admits energy investments have been dilutive due to extreme oil price drops (to $15/barrel) outside stress-test scenarios. He notes the sector's high maintenance capital spending and suggests it may be speculative. Portfolio Construction and Concentration (Priority: 3/5): The portfolio has become more concentrated in financials and select industrials due to fewer high-quality, undervalued businesses. Davis focuses on earnings yield and long-term growth, rejecting 90% of companies. Macro Scenarios and COVID-19 Impact (Priority: 3/5): Davis expects a recovery within 12-24 months, with unemployment peaking soon. He uses global data (Korea, Italy) to inform scenarios and stresses that short-term uncertainty should not overshadow long-term durability. Berkshire Hathaway's Cash Position (Priority: 2/5): Davis expresses confidence in Berkshire's ability to deploy $120 billion in cash during turmoil, though no major acquisitions have been announced yet. He expects active pursuit of opportunities.

Key Arguments: Investors should focus on durable businesses with strong balance sheets that can withstand short-term shocks, rather than speculating on companies with existential threats. Banks are well-capitalized (90-100% more capital than pre-financial crisis) and stress-tested for severe scenarios, making them attractive at 5-7x earnings. Behavioral biases like herd mentality and inertia lead to underperformance; disciplined processes like pre-mortems help mitigate these risks. Energy investments have been hurt by extreme oil price drops outside stress-test ranges, highlighting the need for caution in commodity-dependent sectors. Portfolio concentration is a byproduct of finding fewer high-quality businesses with durable growth and low valuations, not a macro bet.

Data Points: United Technologies stock decline: 40% - Davis bought UTX after it fell 40% due to COVID-19 fears, despite strong balance sheet and durable businesses. Wells Fargo valuation: 5-7x earnings - Davis considers Wells Fargo the cheapest big bank, trading at a discount to book value with high capital ratios. Capital One book value discount: 20-25% below book value - Capital One trades below book value, with stress tests showing only 5-10% book value decline under severe scenarios. Fed stress test GDP decline: 8% - The Fed's stress test assumes an 8% real GDP decline, stocks down 50%, and unemployment peaking at 10%. Portfolio holdings count: 48 - The New York Venture Fund holds 48 stocks, rejecting 90% of S&P 500 companies. EPS growth comparison: 20-21% vs 17% - Davis's portfolio companies have grown EPS faster than the S&P 500 over five years, yet trade at a 25% PE discount. Berkshire Hathaway cash: $120 billion - Berkshire holds $120 billion in cash, which Davis expects to be deployed during market turmoil.

Pivotal Quotes: "When investors are afraid, they overweight certainty, they overweight the short term. And they get unsettled by uncertainty. So, in other words, they overvalue uncertainty and they undervalue durability." — Chris Davis: Explaining why durable businesses become bargains during market panics. "The first rule is not to fool yourself, and you have to remember you're the easiest person to fool." — Chris Davis: Citing Richard Feynman to emphasize the importance of questioning assumptions and avoiding confirmation bias. "You can get into a lot more trouble with a good premise than a bad premise." — Chris Davis: Reflecting on how early success in energy led to overconfidence and subsequent losses.

Implications: Investors should prioritize durable businesses with strong balance sheets during crises, avoid speculative sectors like energy, and maintain behavioral discipline. Banks offer compelling value, but patience is needed for recovery. The focus on long-term earnings yield over short-term volatility is key.

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