Episode Summary
Executive Summary: Episode 195 blends show updates, a historical book review, industry news, and a long discussion of investing misconceptions. The hosts spotlight Eugene Fama for episode 200, review The Great Depression: A Diary, critique robo-advisors and media-driven product changes, and debunk myths around value, dividends, index funds, ETF sameness, risk/return, and U.S.-only investing.
Main Topics: Episode updates and guest announcements (Priority: 5/5): The hosts preview upcoming guests, announce Eugene Fama for episode 200, share listener feedback, and discuss community engagement and the reading challenge. The Great Depression: A Diary review (Priority: 5/5): A deep discussion of Benjamin Roth’s diary as a vivid, middle-class perspective on the Great Depression, with emphasis on gold standard dynamics, deflation, and policy lessons. Industry news and product criticism (Priority: 4/5): They cover Robinhood’s 24/7 trading expansion, stock split mania, and criticize Wealthsimple’s shifting portfolio construction as inconsistent with passive-investing marketing. Misconception: value investing is safer and lower-return (Priority: 5/5): They argue value stocks are riskier than growth stocks in economic downturns and have historically delivered higher expected returns, contrary to common beliefs and some marketing content. Misconception: dividends are safer than total return (Priority: 5/5): They examine behavioral and academic evidence showing investors overvalue dividends, mistaking them for separate income rather than a component of total return. Misconception: all index funds or ETFs are the same (Priority: 4/5): They explain that index funds can be actively designed and that ETFs in the same category can differ markedly in valuation, size, implementation, and performance. Misconception: U.S. stocks are always best (Priority: 4/5): They show that long-run country performance is highly period-dependent and that Canada and Australia have matched or exceeded U.S. returns over some long windows.
Key Arguments: Historical crises keep going; investors live through them, and markets do not end permanently, which is important for long-term perspective. The Great Depression is best understood through monetary policy and the gold standard: countries that left gold recovered faster because they could expand money supply. The common view that value stocks are safer is backwards: value stocks often carry greater fundamental and recession risk, and historically they have had higher expected returns. Value investing does not require stock-picking or manual DCF analysis; systematic factor-based approaches can capture much of the same exposure more efficiently. Not all active funds are bad and not all index funds are good; what matters is fees, diversification, turnover, tax efficiency, and actual portfolio construction. ETFs with the same label can be materially different in valuation, market-cap exposure, implementation, and realized returns, so category names are insufficient. Dividend preference is partly behavioral: investors mentally separate dividends from capital gains and treat dividends like free money, which can reduce returns. U.S. stock dominance is not universal across history; country leadership varies by period, so extrapolating recent U.S. outperformance is dangerous.
Data Points: Episode number: 195 - Current episode of Rational Reminder Episode 200 guest: Professor Eugene Fama - Announced as special guest for the 200th episode Reading Challenge participants: 427 - Update from Angelica on community participation Books read in challenge: Almost 1,000 - Aggregate reading challenge progress Badges earned: Almost 1,500 - Reading challenge engagement and merch discounts Value vs growth premium: 2.87% per year - Fama-French U.S. Value Research Index versus U.S. Growth Research Index, July 1926 to Feb. 2022 Value premium post-1993 in U.S.: -0.35% per year - Out-of-sample U.S. value premium from July 1993 to Feb. 2022 Emerging markets value premium: 4.53% per year - Value versus growth from July 1993 to Feb. 2022 Developed international value premium: 2.72% per year - Value versus growth from July 1993 to Dec. 2021 Value stock volatility: 6.5% higher standard deviation - Historical U.S. data comparing value and growth monthly returns Value stocks in negative growth months: 10% lower annualized return - Value underperforms growth when growth stocks have negative months, 1926-2021 Large-cap value fund underperformance: 83% - Active large-cap value funds trailing benchmarks over 20 years ending Dec. 2021 Mid-cap value fund underperformance: 94% - Active mid-cap value funds trailing benchmarks over 20 years ending Dec. 2021 Small-cap value fund underperformance: 86% - Active small-cap value funds trailing benchmarks over 20 years ending Dec. 2021 Multi-cap value fund underperformance: 87% - Active multi-cap value funds trailing benchmarks over 20 years ending Dec. 2021 Buffett paper Sharpe ratio: 0.79 - Berkshire Hathaway performance in Buffett’s Alpha analysis Buffett implied leverage: About 1.7 to 1 - Estimated average leverage from insurance float in Buffett’s Alpha paper Dividend portfolio yield: 6.4% - Example comparing a dividend-heavy portfolio to a factor-matched total return portfolio Non-dividend portfolio yield: 4.0% - Factor-matched total return portfolio in withdrawal simulation Vanguard Dividend Appreciation ETF alpha: -61 bps - Five-factor alpha from June 2006 to Jan. 2022 Vanguard Dividend Appreciation ETF R-squared: 94% - Most return variation explained by factor exposure Canada year-to-date return: TSX 60 up 3.44%; TSX Composite up 3.88% - Used to illustrate home bias and recent Canadian strength Canadian Dimensional core fund year-to-date: 8.46% - Illustrates strong Canadian factor-tilted performance Canadian vector fund year-to-date: Over 10% - Further evidence of Canadian outperformance at the time
Pivotal Quotes: "Things go on." — Benjamin Felix: Takeaway from The Great Depression: A Diary; the world continues despite severe economic crisis "Value investing is a risky strategy with higher expected returns, expected and historical returns for the majority of history, not the other way around." — Benjamin Felix: Summary of the evidence against the common misconception that value is safer and lower-return "Our customers often tell us they're working or preoccupied during regular market hours." — Robinhood (quoted by hosts): Rationale cited for launching extended-hours trading from 7 a.m. to 8 p.m.
Implications: Listeners should be skeptical of intuitive but unsupported investing beliefs, especially around value, dividends, and ETFs. Historical evidence and portfolio construction details matter more than labels, and long-term discipline beats product marketing.
About The Rational Reminder Podcast
A weekly reality check on sensible investing and financial decision-making, from three Canadians. Hosted by Benjamin Felix, Cameron Passmore, and Dan Bortolotti, Portfolio Managers at PWL Capital.