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Credit Market Implosion Will Be Severe, Says Harald Malmgren | Nicholas Glinsman, Harald Malmgren

Nicholas Glinsman, CEO & CIO at EvoCapital LLC and Harald Malmgren, owner of Malmgren Global LLC, join Jack Farley to discuss the slowing economy: the causes, factors and leaders behind the market. Do leaders like Powell want a recession? Malmgren seems to believe so even though they wouldn'

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Executive Summary: The interview argues that the global economy is entering a synchronized industrial slowdown driven by inventory overhang, weaker export demand, and deglobalization. The guests link sticky inflation, a hawkish Fed, dollar strength, and QT to rising volatility, credit stress, and emerging-market damage. They also frame China, Europe, and commodity markets as being structurally reshaped by policy, geopolitics, and supply-chain reorganization.

Main Topics: Global industrial slowdown and inventory overhang (Priority: 5/5): Harold Malmgren argues manufacturing is sliding into a major slowdown as inventories pile up across autos, appliances, machinery, and other traded goods while demand softens. Inflation, Fed tightening, and policy path (Priority: 5/5): Nick Linsman and Malmgren discuss the hot CPI print, the likelihood of aggressive Fed hikes, and Powell's incentive to front-load tightening even at the risk of recession. Dollar strength, liquidity stress, and global credit risk (Priority: 5/5): The guests argue a stronger dollar is tightening global liquidity, pressuring dollar-debt borrowers, and raising the risk of repo, Treasury-market, and credit-market disruptions. Deglobalization and supply-chain restructuring (Priority: 4/5): They frame COVID, geopolitics, port disruptions, rising Chinese costs, and automation as catalysts pushing production closer to end markets and away from long-distance trade. China's centralization and economic fragility (Priority: 5/5): Malmgren argues Xi's centralized control suppresses innovation, undermines reliable data, and is pushing China into a Japan-like long stagnation with capital outflows and dollar shortages. Commodities, energy, and industrial transition (Priority: 4/5): The discussion covers oil backwardation, sticky rents, the limits of commodity super-cycle thinking, and future shifts toward hydrogen, nuclear power, additive manufacturing, and vertical farming. Geopolitics, leadership, and institutional change (Priority: 3/5): The guests connect U.S., European, and allied leadership weakness to midterm politics, Ukraine policy, and a possible move toward a new rules-based trade/currency framework centered on the Commonwealth and Japan.

Key Arguments: Manufacturing is nearing a broad slowdown because major export-led economies like China, Japan, Germany, and South Korea are seeing new orders collapse and cancellations rise. Pandemic-era stimulus masked an earlier global industrial slowdown, but that support is gone and excess inventories are now working through the system. The Fed is likely to keep tightening aggressively; Powell may prioritize legacy and inflation credibility over short-term growth or market stability. QT matters as much as rate hikes and may quietly create Treasury, repo, and liquidity stress because the Fed has never fully tested it before. A strong dollar is not just a rate differential story; it is also a risk-off signal that drains liquidity and hurts emerging markets with dollar-denominated debt. Deglobalization is structural, not temporary: companies will produce more locally, use automation more, and rely less on long global supply chains. China is weakening because centralization suppresses innovation, distorts incentives, and leaves the economy dependent on exports and property rather than domestic demand. China remains dependent on dollars for trade, reserves, and offshore borrowing, so capital controls and offshore defaults reveal scarcity despite its large reserve history. Commodity selloffs reflect crowded positioning and forced liquidation, not necessarily a solved inflation problem; some physical markets remain tight, especially oil. Future industrial winners may be companies and countries aligned with reshoring, rule-of-law jurisdictions, hydrogen, nuclear, and new manufacturing methods like 3D printing.

Data Points: CPI year-over-year: 9.1% - Jack cites the U.S. inflation print for the day before the interview as justification for higher Fed hike odds. Expected Fed hike probability: ~85% chance of 100 bps hike - Market pricing after the hot CPI print, according to Jack's setup before asking the guests. Dollar index (DXY): 109.15 - Nick references the dollar's surge amid global stress and liquidity tightening. Dollar index target mentioned by Yellen: 110 or more - Harold claims Yellen signaled this target to large institutional investors as a confidence message. Euro / dollar parity reference: Below parity - Nick notes the euro is weaker while the dollar continues to strengthen. Potential terminal Fed funds rate: 3.5% to 5.0% - Nick says the market's 3.6% terminal-rate view may be too low; he thinks the Fed wants roughly 4%-5%. Possible rate hike size: 100 basis points - Harold predicts the next hike could be 100 bps if the CPI gives Powell cover. Commodity / repo fails figure cited: $300-$400 trillion - Nick cites a very large level while discussing repo-fail stress, though the phrasing in the transcript is imprecise. Brazilian real level: 4.53 per USD - Nick uses Brazil as an example of FX stress and election-related volatility. Brazilian real later level: 5.46-5.47 per USD - Nick notes the currency's volatile move during deglobalization and hawkish policy. Number of countries potentially hit by dollar shortage: Up to 100 - Nick forecasts severe spillovers to smaller and emerging-market economies.

Pivotal Quotes: "What we have is companies have continued to produce, thinking the recovery would come. And so manufacturing... continues... But it turns out the demand isn't there." — Harold Malmgren: Explaining why inventories are building and manufacturing is slowing globally. "It is basically deflation to inflation, globalization to isolationism, monetary to fiscal excess... long-term yields above 4% by 2024." — Nick Linsman: Summarizing the macro regime shift he believes markets are underpricing. "China is strangling itself." — Harold Malmgren: Describing the consequences of Xi Jinping's centralized control and suppression of innovation.

Implications: Investors should expect more volatility, tighter global liquidity, weaker trade, and pressure on EM credit. Winners may be firms/countries tied to reshoring, energy transition, and rule-of-law capital flows; losers may be export-dependent, highly levered, and China-exposed assets.

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