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Digital parenting

We look at a particular use of tech in family life - using trackers to know where your children are, or your partner, or other relatives. What are the safety and privacy issues ? Also on Tech Life: Shiona McCallum speaks to the BBC's cyber correspondent, Joe Tidy, about a gang of Russian hacker

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BBC World Service HostEli Savatia Guest

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Episode Summary

Executive Summary: This Tech Life episode examines the rise of location-sharing apps in families, balancing convenience and safety against privacy and abuse risks. It then pivots to cybercrime with BBC’s new podcast on the Russian hacking group Evil Corp, and closes with Kenyan engineer Eli Savatia describing an AI sign-language app designed to make communication more accessible for deaf users.

Main Topics: Family location sharing and digital parenting (Priority: 5/5): The show opens with parents describing why they use apps like Find My iPhone and Life360 to track children and relatives, emphasizing peace of mind, coordination, and safety while acknowledging privacy tensions. Life360’s mainstream adoption and data practices (Priority: 5/5): CEO Lauren Antonoff explains why location-sharing has grown, how the company handles data, and why users see value in features such as pet tracking, teen-driver monitoring, and crash protection. Privacy, consent, and abuse concerns (Priority: 5/5): The discussion probes the darker side of tracking tech, including surveillance, domestic abuse, and whether regulation should better protect vulnerable people. BBC podcast on Evil Corp cybercrime (Priority: 4/5): Joe Tidy introduces Cyber Hack: Evil Corp, detailing the Russian hacking group’s history, alleged thefts, ransomware activity, and the difficulty of bringing its members to justice. Investigating cybercriminals through unusual evidence (Priority: 4/5): The series uses a pizza-order clue and interviews with key figures, including imprisoned hacker ‘Tank,’ to show how investigators pursued the group across borders over many years. AI sign-language translation for deaf users (Priority: 5/5): Kenyan engineer Eli Savatia explains Terp360, an AI-powered app using motion capture and avatars to translate speech and text into sign language in real time, aiming to improve access for deaf communities.

Key Arguments: Location-sharing apps are increasingly normalized because many families value safety, convenience, and coordination more than the privacy trade-off. For some young adults, being tracked can paradoxically increase freedom because parents trust them more when they can see they are safe. Life360 argues its model is opt-in and user-controlled, with users able to disable sharing, making it less intrusive than covert surveillance tools. The company says its data use falls into two categories: operational service providers for features like crash protection and demographic data for advertising. Tracking technology has legitimate protective uses for vulnerable people, including those worried about abusive ex-partners. Evil Corp stands out because of its longevity, scale, and alleged links to state-aligned cyber activity, making it a major case study in modern cybercrime. Early cybercrime relied on banking Trojans, but groups like Evil Corp evolved into ransomware operations that can paralyze organizations and extort millions. Terp360 addresses a major access gap by using AI and locally recorded sign-language data to reduce dependence on scarce human interpreters. Co-design with deaf users and local data collection are essential to making sign-language AI accurate and socially useful.

Data Points: U.S. location-sharing app usage: 62% - Latest figures cited for Americans using family/friend location-sharing apps. Life360 monthly active users: 88 million - CEO Lauren Antonoff describes Life360’s global user base. Evil Corp alleged bounty on leader: $5 million - Reward reportedly offered for Maxim Jakobets since 2019. UK victims in one early operation: about 600 victims - UK banking-fraud case discussed by Joe Tidy. Unlawful online banking transactions: 1,200 - UK police investigation into the gang’s activity. Money stolen in UK case: about 4.2 million - Losses from the UK side of the 2009-2010 operation. Timeframe of early UK operation: October 2009 to early 2010 - Period referenced in the Metropolitan Police briefing. Year Evil Corp has been active: since around 2008-2009 - Joe Tidy traces the group’s origins to this period. Interpreting need at event: approximately 400 deaf students and only one interpreter - Savatia’s catalyst for building Terp360. Target sign languages by mid-2027: at least 5 - Planned expansion across multiple sign languages.

Pivotal Quotes: "I think you've been looking in vain." — Unnamed BBC documentary promo voice: Opening teaser for the BBC documentary about human impact on Earth. "I think this is one of those uses where we are providing a lot of connection and value, and people are in control of their own experience." — Lauren Antonoff: Life360 CEO defending opt-in location sharing and user control. "Like to call it Google Translate for Sign Language." — Eli Savatia: Savatia describing Terp360’s core function in plain terms.

Implications: The episode suggests tech is becoming embedded in intimate parts of life, from parenting to accessibility, with trust and consent central. It also highlights how AI and cybercrime are reshaping risk, opportunity, and regulation for everyday users.

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