More or Less Behind the Statistics
More or Less Behind the Statistics

Does the average teacher really earn £54,000?

Tim Harford investigates some of the numbers in the news. This week: (00:32) A government minister has informed the nation that average teacher pay in England is around £54,000. Radio 4 listeners are howling at the radio in disbelief. Surely someone from the IFS would be able to explain all this? We

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Executive Summary: This episode fact-checks three headline claims: teacher pay in England, alleged Russian soldier survival times in Ukraine, and whether rail is really pricier than flying. It concludes the teacher salary figure is broadly right, the Russian casualty-stat source chain is highly unreliable and likely exaggerated, rail can be competitive with air on busy routes, and a card shuffle is effectively—but not literally—unique every time.

Main Topics: Teacher pay in England is higher than many listeners expect (Priority: 5/5): An IFS expert explains that average/median classroom teacher pay is around £51k now and will reach about £54k after scheduled pay rises; the surprise comes from the pay distribution, regional London weighting, and public misunderstanding of 'average.' Teacher pay in real terms has fallen over time (Priority: 4/5): The discussion places current salaries in historical context: teacher pay fell around 12% in real terms from 2010 to 2022, though recent and planned rises are partially reversing that decline. The Russian front-line survival statistic is poorly sourced (Priority: 5/5): The episode traces a dramatic claim about Russian soldiers surviving minutes or days through a chain of Telegram posts and media reports to an anonymous or unverifiable origin, casting doubt on its reliability. War data are hard to verify, but some claims are implausible (Priority: 5/5): A military historian argues the numbers are not credible as general averages because they imply casualty levels far beyond known estimates, though very short survival times may occur in specific frontline contexts. Train vs plane pricing depends on route, timing, and subsidies (Priority: 4/5): A travel expert shows that on London–Edinburgh, rail and air can be similar in price when booked strategically, with filling seats, monopoly routes, and public subsidy helping explain the economics. A deck shuffle is almost certainly unique, but not mathematically guaranteed (Priority: 4/5): Matt Parker explains that 52! produces an astronomically large number of possible orders, making repeated shuffles effectively impossible in practice, though not literally zero-probability.

Key Arguments: Teacher pay around £54,000 is a fair forward-looking average because median classroom pay is already around £51,000 and scheduled rises will lift it further. The salary distribution is clustered near the top of the teacher pay scale, with many teachers also receiving allowances or additional responsibilities, which raises the median. London weighting pushes pay upward, but not enough to explain the overall figure on its own; the national median is still broadly representative. Teacher salaries have fallen in real terms over the last 15 years, which helps explain why listeners are surprised by the nominal level. The Russian soldier survival statistic is sourced through a chain of increasingly weak references, from media reports to Telegram channels to an unnamed remembered study, making it highly unreliable. If Russian recruits really survived only 10 days to 3 weeks, or 20 to 35 minutes in combat, casualty totals would have to be far higher than available estimates. Some short survival times could occur in very specific assault scenarios, but the claim is not plausible as an across-the-board average. Rail is often expensive because trains run with many empty seats and because infrastructure and public support costs are high; air can look cheaper because planes are more fully loaded and pricing is flexible. For busy, competitive routes, train and plane prices can be close; on monopoly routes like London–Paris, Eurostar pricing can be much higher. A 52-card deck has such an enormous number of arrangements that every shuffle is effectively novel in practice, though not strictly impossible to repeat.

Data Points: Average teacher pay: around £54,000 - Forward-looking average after planned pay rises, according to Luke Sibieta Median teacher pay in England: around £51,000 - Current median pay across all classroom teachers Teacher real-terms pay change, 2010-2022: about -12% - Teacher salaries fell in real terms over this period Teacher pay vs 2010 level: around 7% lower - Despite recent pay rises and planned increases Inner London top of pay scale: around £63,000 - Compared with outside London Outside London top of pay scale: around £51,000 - Top of the upper pay scale outside London Teacher pension employer contribution: around 29% - Public-sector pension value for teachers Private-sector pension contribution comparison: around 6% - Typical employer contribution outside public sector Russian recruit survival claim: 10 days to 3 weeks - Claim cited via Russian military bloggers/Telegram sources Russian front-line survival claim: 20 to 35 minutes - Claim about survival after entering combat Russian troops engaged in war: 700,000+ - Approximate total engaged in the war as a whole Russian troops actively assaulting at one time: about 50,000 - Estimated number in active assaults Russian casualties cited: 35,000 dead and wounded - Approximate figure discussed by Mark Galeotti Highest estimates of Russian dead: 20,000 - Upper-end estimate referenced in discussion London–Edinburgh cheapest train fare next day: about £80 - Example comparison at short notice London–Edinburgh cheapest plane fare next day: about £138 - Example comparison at short notice, tea-time flight London–Edinburgh flight fare example: £9.20 - Cheap evening flight that can be competitive once time is considered London–Edinburgh comparable train fare example: £79 - Evening train timing comparison London–Edinburgh cheapest train fare four weeks ahead: about £50 - Advance booking comparison London–Edinburgh cheapest plane fare four weeks ahead: about £38 - Advance booking comparison Very cheap Ryanair fare: £15 - Lowest flexible flight fare mentioned Cheapest train fare found: £42 - Lowest train fare mentioned in flexible search Average train occupancy: about one in three seats filled - Explains rail economics Airline occupancy: about 85% average; Ryanair about 95% - Explains why flights can be cheaper Card deck permutations: 52! (52 factorial) - Total number of possible card orders 13-card suit permutations: over 6 billion - Example showing how quickly factorials grow Deck arrangement count: 8 followed by 67 digits - Approximate scale of 52-card permutations Probability of two shuffles matching in extreme scenario: 1 in 4 × 10^26 - Even with 10 billion humans shuffling once a second over card-history timescales

Pivotal Quotes: "The average teacher pay is going to be around £54,000." — Luke Sibieta: Explaining the minister’s figure and why it is broadly defensible "The source of this statistic is a study that an unknown Telegram user says they remembered seeing once..." — Andrei Vladov: Describing the weak provenance of the Russian soldier survival claim "It is effectively zero, or it’s indistinguishable from zero." — Matt Parker: Clarifying that a repeated deck order is mathematically possible but practically negligible

Implications: Listeners should treat dramatic statistics with caution and ask where they came from. The episode shows how context changes interpretation: teacher pay is less shocking once distributions are explained, war numbers may be propaganda-adjacent, travel prices depend on market structure, and 'unique' often means practically, not literally, unique.

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Tim Harford and the More or Less team try to make sense of the statistics which surround us. From BBC Radio 4

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