This Week in Startups
This Week in Startups

E1012: Open Office Hours LIVE! Jason helps founders with their biggest challenges: goal-setting, starting a sales flywheel, converting bounced customers, capitalizing on investor feedback & more!

0:52 Kenny from Bacarai asks Jason how to start a flywheel with paid pilots as a pre-revenue company in the group airfare space 13:30 Elyse from Bloom Bras asks Jason some tactical questions around converting bounced website visitors 32:05 Pranav from Glyph asks Jason about goal-setting around raisi

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Executive Summary: In this episode of This Week in Startups, host Jason Calacanis advises founders in a live studio audience across multiple sectors. Kenny's startup aims to automate airline group sales, facing chicken-and-egg challenges; Elise's Bloom Bras targets underserved women with large cup sizes, struggling with sizing and returns; and Pranav's Glyph, a DTC loafer brand, asks about setting growth goals for fundraising. Jason provides tactical advice on pricing, testing, ideal customer profiles, and navigating investor relationships.

Main Topics: Airline Group Sales Automation (Priority: 4/5): Kenny presents a platform to automate group airfare bookings, partnering with airlines. Jason identifies key challenges: the need for paid pilots, pricing model risks, and the chicken-and-egg problem of early revenue. DTC Challenges for Bloom Bras (Priority: 5/5): Elise's Bloom Bras addresses a gap in the market for larger cup sizes (up to L). Main struggles include high website bounce rates, sizing and return issues, and transitioning offline pop-up success to online sales. Growth Goals for Glyph Loafers (Priority: 4/5): Pranav's DTC loafer company, Glyph, uses digital knitting technology. He seeks advice on setting goals to raise institutional seed round, balancing profitable growth versus growth at all costs. Recapped's Sales Education Challenge (Priority: 4/5): Mark's Recapped offers a project management platform for client-facing projects. He faces difficulty converting 70% of prospects who need education about the product, and VCs telling him he's "too early" despite having paying customers. Advice on Investor Dynamics (Priority: 5/5): Jason shares insights on why VCs say "not yet," the importance of probing for real reasons, and the need to focus on customer delight rather than outliers who fund pre-revenue companies.

Key Arguments: For airline group sales startups, unpaid pilots are risky and lack skin in the game; paid pilots with committed budgets are preferable. Charging per ticket ($6 in this case) can be perceived negatively by airlines if the solution scales and cuts into their margins; SaaS pricing may be more favorable. For DTC companies like Bloom Bras, mastering A-B testing and landing page optimization is critical to reduce bounce rates and improve conversions. Sizing challenges in bras can be tackled by sending multiple sizes for trial, similar to initiatives by brands like Adams. For DTC brands like Glyph, pursuing sustainable 3x year-over-year growth with strong unit economics is more attractive to current investors than growth at all costs. Recapped should not take investor rejections personally and should focus on gathering real feedback, iterate on sales education, and build credibility through customer delight. Founders should ignore outlier funding cases (like WeWork) and focus on average VC expectations: $2-4M annual run rate for SaaS companies. Investors often say "not enough revenue" when the real reason might be lack of founder relationship or fund constraints; founders should probe to uncover the truth. Customer delight and word-of-mouth referrals are powerful growth levers; referral programs can amplify organic growth. Building a passionate user base and unit economics first is better than chasing hypergrowth in a crowded market.

Data Points: Group airfare percentage of total ticket sales: 5% - Group airfare constitutes about 5% of total ticket sales for airlines. Revenue model per ticket: $6 per ticket - Kenny's startup charges $6 per ticket; a mid-size airline does about 1 million group tickets per year, each integration worth $6M in revenue. Bras size range: 28C to 56L - Bloom Bras offers the most body-inclusive range on the market, covering 28C to 56L. Monthly unpaid traffic to Bloom Bras website: $100,000 to $300,000 - Bloom Bras receives between $100,000 and $300,000 unpaid traffic per month through SEO. Number of bras sold to date: 2,300 - Bloom Bras has sold about 2,300 bras to date. Glyph customer acquisition cost (CAC): $27 - Glyph's paid CAC is $27; about half of sales come from word of mouth. Glyph shoe price: $125 - Glyph sells its digital knit loafers for $125 per pair. Recapped paying customers: 36 - Recapped has around 36 paying customers. Recapped customer conversion rate: 30% - 30% of people Recapped talks to buy on the spot; 70% need education. Typical VC investment threshold for DTC: $5 million in sales - Jason states that VCs typically look for a minimum of $5M in sales for DTC companies.

Pivotal Quotes: "I want to create a system that's going to take the weight from the front, pull it into the back, be completely adjustable, comfortable, breathable, and something that doesn't make you feel like you're wearing a suit of armor." — Elise (Bloom Bras): Describing the engineering challenge behind Bloom Bras' sports bra design. "If you ever break up with somebody, like in a romantic relationship? ... So now you know what it's like to be an investor. It's incredibly anxiety-producing to tell somebody who's sharing their hopes and dreams that you spent an hour with, and maybe our mutual friend introduced us." — Jason Calacanis: Explaining why investors often give vague 'not yet' feedback rather than honest reasons for passing. "All you can do is focus on getting your credibility and delighting your customers. Just delight your customers." — Jason Calacanis: Advising Mark on what founders can control despite investor rejections. "The best customer experiences are built with Zendesk. Qualifying startups can join their startup program and get Zendesk products free for a full year." — Host (announcer): Segment introducing the sponsor Zendesk and its offer for startups.

Implications: Founders should prioritize paid pilots over free ones to ensure commitment. For DTC brands, mastering digital growth tactics is essential after product-market fit. Sustainable growth with strong unit economics is more attractive to investors than growth at all costs. Investor 'no' often hides real reasons; persistence and customer delight are key.

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Jason Calacanis covers startups, tech, markets, media, and all the hottest topics in business and technology. He also interviews the world’s greatest founders, operators, investors, and innovators.

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