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Eclipses, Cosmic Cataclysms, and More with Janna Levin

What can we learn from eclipses? Janna Levin joined by comedian Matt Kirshen and professor of astronomy and astrophysics at Columbia University, Joe Patterson, discuss the 2017 eclipse, binary star systems, supernovae and more. What is an eclipse on Jupiter like?

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Executive Summary: This StarTalk eclipse special uses the 2017 U.S. total solar eclipse as a launch point to explain eclipse science, coronal physics, and the historical role of eclipses in astronomy. Joe Patterson and Jana Levin connect eclipse wonder to concrete research: studying the solar corona, understanding orbital geometry, and using eclipses—literal and transit-like—to detect exoplanets, measure stellar behavior, and infer cosmic evolution.

Main Topics: The 2017 total solar eclipse as a public science event: The hosts describe the excitement of the August 21, 2017 eclipse at Columbia, the unexpectedly large turnout, shared viewing glasses, cloud interruptions, and how eclipses create communal scientific enthusiasm. Einstein, Eddington, and the 1919 eclipse test of general relativity: The discussion revisits the historic eclipse observations that confirmed light bending by gravity, explaining how totality allowed astronomers to compare star positions near the Sun and verify Einstein’s prediction. What eclipse science studies today: the solar corona: Joe Patterson explains that modern eclipse research focuses on the lower corona, which is normally hidden by the photosphere’s brightness, and why its extreme temperature and structure remain key unsolved problems. Why eclipses are rare and why the Moon fits the Sun so well: The conversation covers orbital tilt, why eclipses do not happen monthly, and the coincidence that the Moon and Sun have nearly the same angular size from Earth, enabling total eclipses. Eclipses, planetary systems, and exoplanet detection: The show broadens from solar eclipses to other occultation-like events, including Jupiter’s moon shadows, binary-star eclipses, and transit methods used to discover planets around other stars. Explosive stellar evolution: novae, supernovae, neutron stars, and pulsars: Patterson discusses cataclysmic variables, white dwarfs, supernova remnants, neutron stars, and black widow pulsars as examples of violent astrophysical systems that reveal how elements and structure spread through the galaxy. Citizen science and accessible astronomy: The Center for Backyard Astrophysics is presented as a model of distributed amateur-professional collaboration, emphasizing that astronomy is participatory and not elitist.

Key Arguments: Total solar eclipses are scientifically valuable because they reveal the Sun’s lower corona, which cannot normally be studied due to the photosphere’s glare. The 1919 eclipse experiment was historically transformative because it provided direct evidence that gravity bends light, confirming general relativity and elevating Einstein’s fame. The Moon’s orbital tilt of about 5 degrees explains why eclipses are rare instead of monthly, despite new moons occurring every month. The Sun and Moon appearing nearly the same size from Earth is a fortunate coincidence that makes total eclipses possible and useful for observation. Modern astronomy relies on eclipses and transit phenomena not just for spectacle but for measuring coronal structure, discovering exoplanets, and studying binary-star dynamics. Supernovae are essential to life because they synthesize and distribute heavy elements; without stellar explosions, the universe would largely consist of hydrogen and helium. Astronomy can be advanced by amateurs: backyard observers with telescopes contribute real data when coordinated over global time coverage. Eclipses have also been used historically as tools of intimidation and power, such as Columbus’s use of a lunar eclipse to coerce cooperation.

Data Points: Date of eclipse episode recording: August 21, 2017 - The show is recorded on the day of the Great American Eclipse. Estimated turnout at Columbia viewing: 4,000 people - Jana Levin says about 4,000 people came to Columbia to observe the eclipse. Eclipse glasses distributed: 500 glasses - The team brought 500 eclipse glasses for the crowd. Moon orbital tilt: 5 degrees - Joe explains why eclipses are not monthly. Moon/Sun angular size: about 0.5 degrees each - Their nearly equal angular diameters make total eclipses possible. Moon smaller/closer relationship: 400 times smaller and 400 times closer - This is why the Moon can just cover the Sun from Earth. Corona temperature: up to 100 million K - The hottest parts of the corona were cited as far hotter than the solar surface. Solar interior temperature: about 10 million K - Compared with the corona, the solar core was described as cooler. Upper atmosphere altitude where temperature rises: above 100,000 feet - Joe notes Earth’s atmosphere starts warming again at high altitude. Cataclysmic variable recurrence: about every 30 years - The featured white-dwarf system erupts on roughly this cycle. Recent eruptions of that system: 6 times in 140 years - Joe cites the eruption history of the system he studies. Jupiter moon shadow visibility: 10–20% per night - A small telescope observer has a moderate chance of seeing a moon shadow on Jupiter on any given night. Crab Nebula supernova date: 1054 - Historical Chinese and Korean records identify the supernova that created the Crab Nebula. Crab Nebula daylight visibility: 1 month - The supernova was visible in daylight for about a month. Crab Nebula night-sky visibility: about 2 years - It remained visible to the naked eye at night for roughly two years. Supernova remnant expansion speed: about 1,000 km/s - The Crab Nebula remnant is still expanding at this rate. Historic Eddington eclipse: 1919 - The eclipse that confirmed general relativity occurred the year after 1918, as discussed in the show.

Pivotal Quotes: "out of the shadow of the war, into the shadow of the moon" — Jana Levin / discussion with Joe Patterson: Describing the symbolic importance of the 1919 eclipse experiment after World War I. "the moon fits over the sun, like a glove" — Joe Patterson: Explaining why total solar eclipses allow scientists to study the corona. "stars manufacture the heavy elements, but then they have to blow up" — Joe Patterson: Explaining why supernovae are essential for producing elements needed for planets and life.

Implications: The episode shows eclipses as both public spectacle and serious scientific tool: they test physics, reveal the Sun’s atmosphere, enable exoplanet discovery, and inspire citizen participation in astronomy.

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