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Ed Slott: Tax Planning for 2025 and Beyond

The tax and IRA expert weighs in on tax-savvy retirement planning, Roth conversions, and the new rules for inherited IRAs.

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Executive Summary: Ed Slott argued that year-end and longer-term tax planning should focus on recordkeeping, RMD compliance, Roth conversions, and charitable strategies. He emphasized that current tax rates are historically low but future rates and estate-tax rules may rise, making proactive moves—especially Roth conversions and using IRAs efficiently for gifting—valuable for many retirees.

Main Topics: Year-end tax loss harvesting and cost-basis tracking (Priority: 5/5): Slott said tax-loss opportunities are harder to find after a strong market, and specific-share identification can help only if investors maintain meticulous records across accounts and decades. RMD rules, aggregation, and common errors (Priority: 5/5): He explained how IRA RMDs can be aggregated across IRAs, but 401(k)s cannot be mixed with IRAs, and warned that spouses cannot satisfy each other's RMDs even if the tax return outcome looks the same. RMD penalty relief and IRS waiver process (Priority: 4/5): Slott discussed lower SECURE 2.0 penalties for missed RMDs and said the IRS is often lenient if taxpayers file Form 5329 and show a good-faith explanation. Roth conversions as long-term tax planning (Priority: 5/5): He strongly endorsed Roth conversions, especially in low-income years before RMDs begin, because they can lock in current rates, eliminate future RMDs, and benefit heirs under the 10-year rule. Qualified charitable distributions and charitable planning (Priority: 4/5): He highlighted QCDs as one of the best tax breaks for charitably inclined IRA owners age 70½+, since they can satisfy RMDs and reduce AGI, unlike ordinary charitable deductions for many taxpayers. 2025 sunset and estate/gift tax planning (Priority: 4/5): Slott said the scheduled expiration of current tax law could reduce exemptions and change rates, so wealthy families may want to use the large current estate/gift exemption before 2026.

Key Arguments: Tax-loss harvesting is less useful when markets are strong, and investors should first clean up old losing positions rather than force sales. Specific identification of shares is technically useful but impractical for many investors because it requires complete, durable records and a permanent accounting method. Direct indexing may not add much tax value versus managing funds or existing holdings, especially when switching into a new structure creates its own tax consequences. Selling assets only to realize gains for tax reasons is usually unattractive for older investors because death may erase capital gains via step-up in basis. IRA RMD rules require careful separation: IRA balances aggregate with other IRAs, but not with employer plans like 401(k)s; spouses also cannot combine RMDs across accounts. The IRS has historically been forgiving about missed RMDs when taxpayers file an explanation, especially when the error is a good-faith mistake by the taxpayer or custodian. Roth conversions are valuable because they trade current tax for future flexibility: no lifetime RMDs, potentially tax-free heir distributions, and control over bracket management. QCDs are superior to itemized charitable deductions for many retirees because they reduce AGI directly, can satisfy RMDs, and are available only from IRAs starting at age 70½. For charitably inclined families, IRAs are often the best asset to leave to charity because the charity is tax-exempt and heirs can inherit more tax-efficient assets instead. The looming 2026 sunset could materially affect estate planning, so affluent households may want to consider using the current lifetime exemption before it potentially drops.

Data Points: QCD eligibility age: 70½ - Qualified charitable distributions are available only to IRA owners age 70 and a half or older. RMD age: 73 - Slott referenced the current age when required minimum distributions begin for many retirees. Long-term capital gains 0% bracket for married filing jointly in 2024: $0 to $94,000 - He cited this range while explaining how ordinary income like RMDs can crowd out the 0% capital-gains band. IRS penalty for missed RMDs under prior law: 50% - He said the penalty used to be extremely harsh before SECURE 2.0 changes. Current missed-RMD penalty: 25% - Slott noted the penalty was reduced under SECURE 2.0. Reduced missed-RMD penalty if corrected quickly: 10% - He said the penalty can drop if the mistake is caught and corrected within the allowed window. Federal estate tax exemption: $13.6 million per person - He said the exemption is currently around this level and may rise to about $13.9 million in 2025. Projected 2025 estate tax exemption: about $13.9 million per person - He estimated the exemption may approach this amount before the 2026 sunset. Annual gift tax exclusion: $18,000 per recipient - He described the 2024 annual exclusion amount for tax-free cash gifts. Married couple annual exclusion with gift splitting: $36,000 per recipient - He said spouses can combine exclusions via gift splitting. Potential number of friends example: 1,000 - Used in his illustration of how annual exclusions can scale to very large tax-free transfer amounts. Tax-free charitable/direct gift example: $5,000 - He used this as a simple example of a QCD that could also satisfy an RMD.

Pivotal Quotes: "I love Roth conversions. I think everybody should at a minimum look at these things." — Ed Slott: His strongest endorsement of Roth conversions as a central tax-planning move. "IRAs are by far, not even close, the best assets to give to charity." — Ed Slott: He was explaining why IRAs are highly tax-efficient charitable assets for those already inclined to give. "You have to look longer term." — Ed Slott: He used this to caution against making short-term tax decisions without considering step-up in basis, RMDs, and estate planning.

Implications: Listeners should prioritize accurate records, avoid RMD mistakes, and consider Roth conversions and QCDs before year-end. Wealthier households may also need to accelerate gifting before the 2026 tax-law sunset changes exemptions.

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