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Election Results Breakdown With The Daily Beast Editor In Chief Noah Shachtman

As the election results come in, Noah Shachtman, the editor in chief of The Daily Beast, joins the Big Technology Podcast for an 'Emergency' show to dive into the results, the future of the Democratic Party, and how the tech platforms handled the election. Recorded on 11/4/2020. Learn more

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Alex Kantrowitz HostNoah Shachman Guest

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Episode Summary

Executive Summary: In this emergency episode, Noah Shachman and the host assess the still-uncertain 2020 U.S. election, arguing Biden has the edge but lawsuits, ballot-counting delays, and possible unrest could still reshape the outcome. They also dissect how Facebook, Twitter, Fox News, and cable platforms influenced the information environment, with Shachman praising some moderation steps but criticizing overreach in the Hunter Biden/New York Post case and warning that echo chambers and polarization remain dangerous.

Main Topics: Election status and Biden’s narrow edge (Priority: 5/5): The conversation opens with a live read on the electoral map: Biden appears to have more paths to victory, especially in upper Midwest states and Pennsylvania, but the outcome remains fluid and potentially court-bound. Media and information ecosystems (Priority: 5/5): Shachman argues that Facebook and other platforms are major political forces because many users rely on them as primary news sources, often receiving heavily pro-Trump content that can shape perceptions more than mainstream political analysis. Democratic messaging failures (Priority: 4/5): Both speakers question whether Democrats offered a compelling, affirmative message beyond anti-Trump sentiment. Shachman says Biden failed to clearly connect coronavirus failures to Trump’s governance and lacked an easy-to-understand policy roadmap. Platform moderation: success, overreach, and labeling (Priority: 4/5): Shachman gives mixed marks to social platforms: credit for stronger action against foreign interference and extremist groups like QAnon, but criticism for Twitter’s handling of the New York Post/Hunter Biden story and uncertainty about the practical impact of warning labels on misleading election claims. Risk of political violence and dehumanization (Priority: 5/5): The discussion turns to fears that social media echo chambers and Trump’s rhetoric could mobilize supporters into unrest if he loses, with Shachman warning that dehumanizing politics can lower the threshold for violence. Press and newsroom mission in crisis (Priority: 3/5): Shachman describes how his newsroom functions during high-stress political moments: mission-focused, fact-driven, and committed to telling the unvarnished truth while avoiding narrow Washington-centric coverage.

Key Arguments: Biden appears to have more electoral paths than Trump, but the result is still uncertain and could be decided by courts or late-counted ballots. Facebook likely had a larger influence on political perception than many elites realize because it serves as a primary information source for many Americans. Trump’s closeness in the race reflects not only his support but also Democrats’ failure to present a strong, positive alternative and to tie COVID-19 deaths directly to his leadership. Social platforms deserve credit for improving foreign-interference defenses and acting against domestic extremist movements, but they may have overreacted in the Hunter Biden/New York Post episode. Labeling misleading posts is directionally good, but its actual effect on belief and behavior remains unclear. If Trump loses, there is a real risk that online rhetoric and far-right mobilization could contribute to unrest or violence. A healthy media operation should report nationally, not just through the Washington/Acela/Bay Area lens, and should tell local, concrete stories that resonate beyond politics insiders.

Data Points: Recording time: 1:11 a.m. Eastern - The host notes the timestamp when discussing the state of the race on Wednesday morning. Election outcome confidence: Biden has more outs - Shachman frames the race like a poker hand and says Biden’s position looks better at that moment. Trump support among nonwhite voters: Highest share of Republican nonwhite support in decades - The discussion references Trump’s unusually strong performance among nonwhite voters as a sign of his coalition’s durability. COVID-19 deaths: Quarter million Americans - Shachman says barely eking out a win over a president overseeing this death toll is a weak Democratic showing. Potential lives lost: Tens or hundreds of thousands more people would still be alive - Shachman argues earlier and sustained public-health measures could have dramatically reduced deaths from coronavirus. Election history reference: 2016 - Both speakers repeatedly reference social platforms’ desire to avoid repeating the foreign-interference failures of the 2016 election. Platforms referenced: Facebook, Twitter, Google, Fox News, MSNBC - These companies/channels are discussed as key shapers of the political information environment. Public response warning: Stand back and stand by - Used as an example of Trump rhetoric that may function as a wink to militant supporters.

Pivotal Quotes: "politics is a fucking dirty game played by professional liars" — Noah Shachman: Shachman reflects on why he left politics after working for the Clinton campaign and DNC. "if Trump was going to win this thing or even make it close, it was because of the heroic efforts of Rupert Murdoch and Mark Zuckerberg" — Noah Shachman: His shorthand assessment of the media and platform forces helping sustain Trump’s political strength. "merely being anti is not going to is not going to get it done" — Noah Shachman: Shachman argues Democrats need a positive, substantive governing message rather than only anti-Trump messaging.

Implications: The episode suggests the 2020 election is as much about information systems as ballots: platform design, media framing, and messaging strategy may shape both legitimacy and stability. Expect legal fights, moderation scrutiny, and heightened violence risk if the result is contested.

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