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Ep. 1839 - The Pogroms Are Back

A pogrom breaks out in Russia as the world makes excuses for Hamas; Hamas and its erstwhile allies call for Israel to stop its campaign to destroy the terror group; and Mike Pence drops out of the 2024 race. Click here to join the member exclusive portion of my show: https://utm.io/ueSEj Ep.1839 - -

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Executive Summary: The episode argues that October 7 and subsequent anti-Jewish violence worldwide reveal a persistent pattern of pogroms now rebranded by elites as anti-Zionism or “context.” It condemns Western media, universities, and international bodies for moral equivalence toward Hamas, highlights Hamas’s use of civilians as shields while stockpiling resources, and closes by praising a muscular U.S. foreign policy stance and noting Mike Pence’s presidential exit.

Main Topics: October 7 as a modern pogrom and global antisemitism (Priority: 5/5): The host frames Hamas’s attack on Israel as the latest in a long history of pogroms against Jews, arguing that modern commentators distort the event by calling it military action or decolonization instead of antisemitic mass murder. Dagestan airport riot and worldwide anti-Jewish mobs (Priority: 5/5): He describes the Dagestan airport storming as an overt search for Jews after a Tel Aviv flight rumor, using it as evidence that pogroms against Jews are ongoing and not confined to the Middle East. Western media and elite moral equivalence (Priority: 5/5): The transcript criticizes journalists, UN officials, and public intellectuals for portraying Israel’s self-defense as morally equivalent to Hamas’s atrocities, especially through calls for ceasefires and humanitarian restraint. Hamas governance, civilian suffering, and supply stockpiles (Priority: 5/5): The host argues Hamas is responsible for Gaza’s humanitarian crisis because it rules the territory, hides among civilians, and retains substantial fuel, food, weapons, and financial resources while exploiting civilian suffering for propaganda. University protests and campus antisemitism (Priority: 4/5): Columbia, Cornell, USC, and other campuses are portrayed as hostile environments where faculty and protesters excuse or celebrate anti-Israel rhetoric, threaten Jewish students, and normalize extremist slogans. Global geopolitical alignment with Hamas (Priority: 4/5): Russia, China, Turkey, Iran, and other actors are described as leveraging the conflict to weaken the West and the U.S., with Hamas allegedly proud that its attack distracted attention from Ukraine and emboldened authoritarian powers. Republican politics and Mike Pence’s exit (Priority: 3/5): The show closes by discussing the GOP primary, Pence ending his campaign, and the argument that Trump’s foreign-policy record was not isolationist but forceful and effective.

Key Arguments: October 7 is presented as a pogrom, not a conventional military operation, because the attack targeted Jews as Jews and involved mass murder, rape, and hostage-taking. The host argues that Western elites recast antisemitic violence as political resistance to avoid moral clarity and to pressure Israel into not defending itself. Dagestan and London rallies are used to show that anti-Jewish hatred is transnational and energized by Islamist mobilization. The West, especially media institutions and the UN, is accused of rewarding Hamas by demanding ceasefires without requiring Hamas to surrender or release hostages. Hamas is said to bear primary responsibility for Gaza’s suffering because it governs the strip, stockpiles supplies, steals aid, and uses civilians as human shields. Campus protests and faculty letters are described as evidence that higher education now often excuses antisemitism while punishing those who defend Jews or Israel. Trump is framed as the strongest Republican on foreign policy, while Pence’s withdrawal is portrayed as the natural consequence of a weak primary challenge and a realignment around Trump. The U.S. should back Israel decisively because weakness invites more aggression from terrorists and hostile states.

Data Points: Israeli deaths on October 7: about 1,500 - Cited as the largest pogrom against Jews since the Holocaust Dagestan population practicing Islam: 83% - Used to contextualize the airport mob storming for Jews UN ceasefire vote: 120 in favor, 14 against, 45 abstentions - Vote described as benefiting Hamas by pressuring Israel to stop operations UN staff killed in Gaza: at least 53 - Referenced in Nicholas Kristof’s argument about civilian suffering Pakistan planned expulsions: 1.4 million Afghans - Used to argue global humanitarian outrage is selective Afghan refugees in Pakistan: 3.7 million - UNHCR estimate cited in the Pakistan deportation discussion Gaza unemployment rate: 47% - Mentioned in NBC News coverage of Gaza’s economic conditions Population living in poverty in Gaza: more than 80% - Cited to emphasize the humanitarian crisis under Hamas Hamas annual military budget: $100 million to $350 million - NBC News estimate of Hamas’s armed capabilities Hamas real-estate and asset portfolio: $500 million - Treasury-related reporting on Hamas investments Hamas estimated personnel: 35,000 to 40,000 - Used in discussion of Hamas stockpiles and sustained fighting capacity Hamas fuel stockpile: 211,000 to 264,000 gallons - Israeli military estimate referenced by the host George Soros funding to pro-Palestinian protest groups: more than $15 million since 2016 - New York Post / Open Society funding claim about protest infrastructure Open Society grants through Tides Center: $13.7 million - Part of the total alleged funding supporting pro-Palestine protests Pure Talk fundraising goal progress: 74% to $10 million goal - Veterans Day debt relief promotion

Pivotal Quotes: "This is what pogroms look like." — Ben Shapiro: After describing the Dagestan airport mob searching for Jews "What we actually need is the blood of more women and children." — Ismail Haniyeh: Quoted to argue Hamas depends on civilian suffering to fuel its cause "Hamas either goes or Hamas stays. There is no third move here." — Ben Shapiro: On why ceasefire rhetoric that preserves Hamas is rejected

Implications: The episode urges listeners to view the Israel-Hamas war as a test of civilizational resolve: either the West backs Israel and rejects antisemitic double standards, or it normalizes violence, campus extremism, and broader geopolitical weakness.

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