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Ep. 2355 - COURSE CORRECTION? Bovino OUT, Trump and Walz Make Nice

Border Patrol official Gregory Bovino is headed out of Minneapolis, along with some agents; President Trump makes nice with Minnesota Governor Tim Walz; and Democrats sense blood in the water. Ep. 2355 - - - Click here to join the member-exclusive portion of my show: https://dwplus.watch/BenShapiroM

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Executive Summary: The episode centers on the Trump administration’s Minneapolis immigration crackdown, arguing that blue-state sanctuary policies force ICE into more visible, confrontational operations and worsen public opinion. It highlights an internal shift from Noem/Bovino-style showy tactics to Homan-led enforcement, critiques media/Democratic reactions, then pivots to Kanye West’s apology, a Democratic messaging backlash, and rising Obamacare costs and affordability concerns.

Main Topics: Minneapolis immigration enforcement and Trump administration course correction (Priority: 5/5): The discussion argues that Democrat obstruction in Minnesota forced a tactical shift by the Trump administration, including a more conciliatory posture toward Governor Tim Walz and Mayor Jacob Frey and a personnel change that elevates Tom Homan over Gregory Bovino and DHS leadership. Sanctuary policies, ICE tactics, and public opinion (Priority: 5/5): The transcript contends that sanctuary-city noncooperation pushes ICE away from jail-based arrests and toward street-level operations, producing more confrontations and uglier visuals that damage ICE’s approval ratings even when law enforcement goals remain popular. Media and Democratic framing of ICE as brutality (Priority: 4/5): The host criticizes Jimmy Kimmel, CNN, and Democratic politicians for portraying ICE and Border Patrol as abusive forces while allegedly omitting key facts about the disputed shootings that triggered the controversy. Internal Trump administration conflict over enforcement strategy (Priority: 4/5): A split is described between a ‘showy’ camp centered on Kristi Noem, Gregory Bovino, and Corey Lewandowski, and a more measured camp led by Tom Homan and ICE leadership focused on quality arrests and legal process. Kanye West’s apology and mental illness (Priority: 3/5): The episode covers Kanye West’s full-page apology for anti-Semitism and Nazi symbolism, presenting his behavior as tied to bipolar disorder while blaming enablers and media figures who amplified him. Democratic overreach and shutdown politics (Priority: 3/5): The transcript argues Democrats are going too far by demanding DHS concessions, supporting shutdown brinkmanship, and escalating rhetoric that could alienate voters even if it wins short-term political battles. Obamacare affordability and broader cost-of-living pressure (Priority: 3/5): The show closes by criticizing ACA subsidy dependence and rising premiums, using affordability data to argue that government intervention has made housing, healthcare, and education less affordable.

Key Arguments: Blue-state sanctuary policies obstruct ICE, forcing agents to arrest people in the streets instead of in jails, which increases conflict and negative media images. Public support is strongest for deporting immigrants who have committed independent crimes, not for untargeted enforcement; the administration should focus on criminal illegal aliens. The Trump administration mishandled the Minneapolis shootings through premature statements, and those errors gave Democrats and legacy media a propaganda advantage. Tom Homan is presented as the most credible and professional figure to restore enforcement discipline, while Noem and Bovino are criticized as image-driven and ineffective. Tim Walz and Minneapolis officials are accused of selectively cooperating with federal authorities while still effectively shielding many illegal immigrants from ICE. Democrats may win a short-term battle by turning ICE into a political liability, but risk a long-term backlash if voters associate them with lawlessness and disorder. Kanye West’s apology is framed as credible because it acknowledges bipolar disorder and personal responsibility, while blaming those who exploited his mania for clicks and profit. Obamacare and other subsidized systems are described as structurally expensive and dependent on more government spending, not less. Government intervention is said to be the cause of affordability problems in healthcare, housing, and education, rather than the solution.

Data Points: ICE arrests with prior conviction or pending criminal charge (early 2025): 87% - At the beginning of 2025, most ICE arrests were of immigrants with criminal convictions or pending charges. ICE arrests with prior conviction or pending criminal charge (October 2025): 55% - The criminal share of ICE apprehensions fell as sanctuary-state noncooperation increased. ICE custody without criminal conviction since October: 73% - A Cato Institute review cited in the transcript claims most people taken into ICE custody since October had no criminal conviction. Violent criminal conviction share since October: 5% - The Cato review said only a small portion of ICE custody cases involved violent criminal convictions. ICE approval rating change after Minneapolis: -27 points - CNN’s Harry Enten is cited showing ICE net approval dropped further after the Minneapolis events. ICE approval rating in June 2025: -17 points - Approval had already fallen during earlier Los Angeles operations before worsening later. Obamacare premium increase example: $255/month to $2,155/month - A West Virginia couple’s ACA premium is used to illustrate post-subsidy cost spikes. Obamacare premium increase factor: nearly triple mortgage payment - The example emphasizes that ACA costs can exceed housing payments. Deep sleep improvement on Helix mattresses: 82% - A sponsor-read cites a Helix study claiming improved deep sleep among participants. Life expectancy impact of bipolar disorder: 10–15 years shorter - Kanye’s apology quotes WHO/Cambridge figures on bipolar disorder mortality. All-cause mortality rate increase for bipolar disorder: 2–3 times higher - Used in Kanye’s apology to stress severity of the condition. Minnesota prison population cited by Walz: ~8,000 - Walz claims only a fraction of Minnesota’s prison population is non-citizen. Non-citizens in Minnesota prisons cited by Walz: 207 - Walz uses this number to argue the state is already cooperating with detainers. Non-U.S. citizens alleged by administration: 1,360 - Walz disputes a DHS claim that Minnesota prisons hold 1,360 non-citizens. DHS funding in One Big Beautiful Bill Act: $178 billion - Fetterman cites this as existing funding while opposing a shutdown over ICE.

Pivotal Quotes: "If they let us in their damn jail, we could arrest the bad guy in the safety and security of the jail." — Tom Homan: Used to argue that sanctuary-state noncooperation forces more dangerous street arrests. "This is a campaign of organized brutality against the people of our state." — Gov. Tim Walz: Walz’s Wall Street Journal criticism of Trump administration enforcement in Minnesota. "I lost touch with reality. Things got worse the longer I ignored the problem." — Kanye West: From Kanye’s Wall Street Journal apology explaining his anti-Semitic behavior through bipolar disorder.

Implications: The episode frames immigration enforcement as a political test: if sanctuary policies keep winning short-term, ICE may become more constrained and confrontational. It also suggests Democrats risk overreach, while rising costs and cultural backlash could reshape voter sentiment.

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