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Ep. 273 - Is Trump In Trouble?

Comey destroys Trump's wiretapping narrative and says Trump's team is under investigation on Russia ties -- but does it matter? Plus, Democrats make asses of themselves on the Gorsuch nomination. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Learn more about your ad

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Executive Summary: The transcript centers on Ben Shapiro’s criticism of Trump’s handling of multiple controversies: the Kaepernick tweet, the House GOP health care bill, the wiretapping claim, and the Russia/leaks investigations. Shapiro argues Trump is undermining himself through exaggeration, while the real scandal is classified-information leaks. He also praises Gorsuch and condemns Democratic attacks on originalism.

Main Topics: Trump vs. Colin Kaepernick and presidential overreach (Priority: 4/5): Shapiro says Kaepernick deserves criticism, but Trump should not publicly pressure businesses or appear to bully employers into firing someone through tweets. Republican health care bill and Trumpcare politics (Priority: 5/5): A major segment critiques the GOP health plan as weak, unpopular, and not the repeal-replace promise Trump sold; Shapiro says the bill is politically risky and likely to fail or backfire. Wiretapping claims and credibility damage (Priority: 5/5): Shapiro argues Trump’s claim that Obama wiretapped Trump Tower is unsupported, and that Trump worsened the issue by doubling down instead of clarifying what was likely broader surveillance of Russian-linked contacts. Russia investigation and Trump campaign associates (Priority: 5/5): Comey’s confirmation of an FBI counterintelligence investigation into Trump-Russia links is treated as serious, though Shapiro says the White House’s heavy-handed denials make it look worse. Leaks of classified intelligence as the real scandal (Priority: 5/5): Shapiro says the most consequential wrongdoing is the leaking of intercepted conversations and unmasked identities, which he frames as a genuine national-security and legal violation. Gorsuch hearings and constitutional originalism (Priority: 4/5): He praises Neil Gorsuch and criticizes Democrats like Dianne Feinstein and Sheldon Whitehouse for misrepresenting originalism and the Second Amendment during the confirmation hearing. Media reaction, Trump allies, and political optics (Priority: 3/5): Shapiro contrasts media hysteria about Trump with the self-inflicted nature of his problems, while also criticizing supportive commentators who reinforce Trump’s worst instincts.

Key Arguments: Trump was wrong to celebrate pressure on NFL owners because the president should not be seen as coercing private businesses over political speech. The GOP health care bill is weak because it preserves much of Obamacare, adds tax credits that function like entitlements, and is politically unpopular. Trump should have framed the surveillance issue as possible incidental collection involving Russian contacts, not an unsupported claim of Obama-directed wiretapping. The FBI’s confirmation of a Trump-Russia counterintelligence investigation is serious politically, but it does not prove collusion or election hacking. The biggest actual scandal is the leaking of classified intelligence and unmasked names, which may violate the law and endanger national security. Trump’s credibility problem is self-inflicted: he reads headlines, doubles down on false claims, and then weakens his ability to govern. Democratic attacks on Gorsuch reveal hostility to constitutional limits and explain why conservatives view the courts as a critical battleground.

Data Points: Fox News favorability on Republican health care bill: 34% favorable / 54% opposed - Used to show the bill is broadly unpopular. Average support for Republican health care bill: 30% support / 47% opposed - Shapiro cites an average from multiple polls. Trump support among his own supporters: 13% strongly support the bill - Illustrates weak grassroots enthusiasm for Trumpcare. Obamacare favorability at passage: 40% favorable / 49% unfavorable - Used for comparison to the Trumpcare bill’s worse standing. Democratic House losses after Obamacare: 63 seats - Shapiro argues unpopular health policy can have major electoral consequences. Length of health care bill: 120 pages - Described as an omnibus-style bill with many regulations. Proposed Medicaid block grant: $10 billion per year for 10 years - Presented as the bill’s best feature, though Shapiro doubts it will remain fixed. Timeline of FBI investigation into Trump-Russia links: Since July - James Comey says the counterintelligence investigation had been underway for months.

Pivotal Quotes: "the president of the United States should not be in the business of bullying businesses into firing particular employees" — Ben Shapiro: Critique of Trump’s comments about Colin Kaepernick and NFL owners. "I have no information that supports those tweets." — James Comey: Comey’s testimony denying evidence for Trump’s wiretapping claim. "The accusation that President Obama was actively involved in harming the Trump campaign has now harmed the president himself." — Bill O'Reilly: Advice to Trump after the wiretapping controversy.

Implications: Trump’s biggest vulnerability is self-inflicted credibility loss, especially on health care and intelligence claims. The transcript warns that bad messaging can deepen political damage, while leaks and constitutional fights will keep driving the news cycle.

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