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Ep. 525 - Kanye Believe It?

Kanye gets labeled alt-right by a Washington Post writer, Pat Buchanan stumps for the end of democracy, and the New York Times tells a romantic story about a lesbian and a transgender woman conceiving a child. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Learn more about your

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Executive Summary: The episode argues that the left uses ideological labeling and state power to police speech and family life, using Kanye West’s “alt-right” label, Joy Reid’s resurfaced blog posts, transgender/gender-identity controversies, and British court intervention in a dying child’s care as examples. Shapiro also condemns media sensationalism, defends parental rights and religious liberty, marks Armenian Genocide remembrance, and closes with a Federalist 25 discussion on distrust of centralized power.

Main Topics: Kanye West, the alt-right label, and media overreach (Priority: 5/5): Shapiro claims the Washington Post and broader left unfairly stretch the term “alt-right” to include anyone outside their ideology, using Kanye West as the latest example after his tweets about Candace Owens and self-reliance. Joy Reid controversy and ideological forgiveness (Priority: 4/5): He discusses the resurfacing of Joy Reid’s old blog posts on homosexuality, arguing the left is inconsistent and that people should be judged by current views and recantations rather than old statements. Transgender ideology, biology, and the New York Times story (Priority: 5/5): Shapiro criticizes a NYT feature on a lesbian woman and a transgender man trying to conceive, arguing it obscures basic biology and illustrates how ideological confusion enters mainstream media and education. Parental rights, schooling, and state indoctrination (Priority: 5/5): He warns that LGBT educational materials, school policies, and state intervention in education are eroding parental authority, potentially leading to restrictions on homeschooling and greater state control over children. Alfie Evans and government power over life and death (Priority: 5/5): Shapiro condemns British authorities for preventing a terminally ill child’s transfer for experimental treatment, framing it as an immoral example of bureaucrats overriding parents in the name of ‘dignity.’ Media credibility, sensationalism, and Trump coverage (Priority: 3/5): He argues the press is behaving like TMZ, citing obsessive coverage of Trump-Macron handshakes and self-congratulatory media hero shots as evidence of declining journalistic seriousness. Historical memory and constitutional power (Priority: 4/5): He honors the Armenian Genocide as a neglected atrocity and connects it to later genocidal thinking, then closes with Hamilton’s Federalist 25 on why centralized power should be distrusted even when used by one’s own side.

Key Arguments: The term ‘alt-right’ has been expanded so broadly that it is now used to stigmatize mainstream conservatives and non-leftists, not just genuine white supremacists. Kanye West’s tweets are being treated as evidence of extremism only because he moved rightward, despite his long history of erratic behavior and left-wing outbursts. The left is inconsistent about “lost” people seeking purpose: it pathologizes right-leaning figures like Kanye while not applying the same language to Bernie Sanders supporters. Old offensive statements should be judged in context, especially when speakers have recanted; using decades-old posts to destroy careers incentivizes dishonesty and self-censorship. Mainstreaming transgender ideology in schools and media is being presented as neutral fact while overriding biological reality and confusing children. State power over medicine and education is expanding at the expense of parents, faith communities, and individual autonomy. The Alfie Evans case exemplifies the moral danger of bureaucracies deciding which lives are worth preserving. Journalistic credibility is undermined when outlets focus on theatrical, trivial, or self-aggrandizing narratives instead of substantive public issues. The Armenian Genocide should be recognized plainly as genocide and remembered as a warning about mass violence and denial. Hamilton’s point in Federalist 25 is that even a national government one may trust politically should still be distrusted structurally because power is dangerous in any hands.

Data Points: Percent of all anti-Semitic tweets directed at journalists: 40% - Shapiro cites the ADL data while explaining he was a major target of the alt-right in 2016. Age of Alfie Evans: Almost 2 years old - Used to emphasize the child’s vulnerability in the British court case. Estimated Armenian Genocide death toll: Hundreds of thousands to 1.5 million - Shapiro describes the scale of the killings and ongoing denial. Duration of Armenian Genocide: 1915 to 1923 - He frames it as a prolonged series of atrocities. Years Joy Reid’s old posts were from: About 12-15 years earlier - Used to argue that old recanted statements should not automatically destroy a career. Share of children with gender dysphoria who outgrow it: Well over 80% - Shapiro cites this to argue against early social/medical transition for minors. Blue Apron menu options per week: 12 new recipes - Sponsor mention describing the service’s variety. PolicyGenius users served: Over 4 million - Sponsor mention to show scale and trustworthiness. PolicyGenius coverage placed: Over $20 billion - Sponsor mention for life insurance comparison service. Skillshare class count: Over 20,000 classes - Sponsor mention highlighting breadth of offerings. Skillshare promo length: 2 months - Listeners are offered two months of access for 99 cents. Skillshare promo price: 99 cents - Introductory offer for the audience.

Pivotal Quotes: "The left has now broadened out the label alt-right to apply to anyone." — Ben Shapiro: Central criticism of media and progressive labeling practices during the Kanye West discussion. "The state is not going to stand for that. The state is going to say that you are not licensed to do that and your kid is a truant." — Ben Shapiro: Warning that homeschooling and parental control may be increasingly challenged by government ideology. "The people are always most in danger when the means of injuring their rights are in the possession of those of whom they entertain the least suspicion." — Alexander Hamilton: Quoted from Federalist 25 to support skepticism toward centralized government power.

Implications: Listeners are urged to resist ideological shorthand, defend parental and religious autonomy, and stay skeptical of media and state institutions that claim moral authority. The episode frames current culture-war battles as part of a larger struggle over truth, biology, and centralized power.

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