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Ep. 56 - Everyone Knows What 'New York Values' Are, So Stop Bitching

Ben talks Trump vs. Cruz, Hillary vs. Bernie, and why the only good comic book origin stories are Superman and Batman. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Executive Summary: The episode centers on the escalating Cruz-Trump feud over “New York values,” which Shapiro argues is a cynical, overblown attack rooted in obvious ideological differences, not 9/11 or ethnic slurs. He then pivots to the Democratic debate, criticizing Clinton and Sanders for heavy racial pandering and dubious crime claims, before closing with criticism of Trump’s evangelical outreach and a broader rant against comic-book culture’s obsession with backstory and left-wing messaging.

Main Topics: Trump vs. Cruz: the 'New York values' controversy (Priority: 5/5): Shapiro argues that Cruz’s phrase clearly referred to New York’s socially liberal politics, while Trump and the media deliberately twisted it into an insult toward 9/11-era New Yorkers. Republican primary strategy and anti-establishment politics (Priority: 4/5): He frames Trump’s 'nobody likes Ted' attack as ineffective, arguing Republican voters do not want a president focused on getting along or cutting deals with the left. Democratic debate and racial justice messaging (Priority: 5/5): Shapiro criticizes Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders for pandering to Black Lives Matter and making exaggerated or false claims about incarceration and policing. Trump’s evangelical outreach and religious credibility (Priority: 4/5): He mocks Trump’s claims of having a 'great relationship with God' and notes the inconsistency between Trump’s self-presentation and his prior remarks about forgiveness and Bible knowledge. Media bias and selective outrage (Priority: 4/5): Shapiro repeatedly accuses CNN, the Washington Post, and other media figures of amplifying cynical narratives while ignoring basic facts or context. Comic books, backstory, and cultural decline (Priority: 3/5): In a long closing segment, he argues comic books have become too focused on origin stories and political messaging, weakening classic characters and narratives.

Key Arguments: Cruz’s 'New York values' comment was transparently about New York’s social politics, especially pro-abortion and pro-gay-marriage views, not about New Yorkers’ response to 9/11. Trump’s own past remarks prove he understood and embraced 'New York values' when using them to justify progressive positions on gay marriage, gays in the military, and partial-birth abortion. The outrage from New Yorkers and the media is hypocritical because many public figures routinely discuss regional value differences, and New Yorkers themselves often view the rest of the country with elitism. Trump’s 'everybody hates Ted' attack is poor politics for Republicans because primary voters want a fighter, not a dealmaker who compromises with the left. Hillary Clinton’s claims about police killings and prison rates are exaggerated or false, but the press still frames them as substantively valid. Democrats are building a coalition around black and brown voters and single women, which drives their messaging toward identity-based pandering. Trump’s religious language sounds performative; real religious devotion would not be expressed as 'I have a great relationship with God' or by dismissing the need for forgiveness. Modern comic books are being politicized by left-wing writers and over-reliant on backstory, which weakens the simplicity and mythic power of characters like Batman, Superman, and Han Solo.

Data Points: Debate reference: Last Thursday night - The Republican debate fight between Cruz and Trump that Shapiro says started the feud Trump’s New York claim repetitions: 5 times - Trump cited his New York upbringing five times in a 1999 interview to justify support for gay marriage, gays in the military, and partial-birth abortion CNN/ratings context: 3 candidates - Shapiro notes the Democratic debate featured only Hillary Clinton, Bernie Sanders, and Martin O’Malley Martin O’Malley characterization: 1 minor candidate - He jokes O’Malley was included mainly for comic effect Debate schedule criticism: February 11 - Referenced as the next Democratic debate date, after Iowa and New Hampshire Black incarceration claim: 1 out of 3 - Clinton claimed one out of three African-American men may end up in prison National prison population: 2 million - Shapiro uses this to argue Clinton’s incarceration claim is mathematically implausible Black male prison population cited by WaPo: 517,000 - Washington Post fact check quoted during discussion of Clinton’s claim White male prison population cited by WaPo: 453,000 - Washington Post fact check quoted during discussion of Clinton’s claim Black population share: 10% - Shapiro estimates black Americans as roughly 10% of the U.S. population to rebut Clinton’s claim Hillary email question: No - Clinton answered 'No' when asked by Jake Tapper if the FBI had interviewed her about her private email server Democratic primary coalition: Black and brown people + single women - Shapiro characterizes this as the core of the Democrats’ electoral strategy World Trade Center towers: 2 towers, 110 stories each - Trump invoked 9/11 and New York’s rebuilding in the debate Comic-book reaction: 73% - Shapiro cites New York City’s mayoral election result to mock media outrage and city politics

Pivotal Quotes: "Everyone understands that the values in New York City are socially liberal or pro-abortion or pro-gay marriage, focused around money and the media." — Ted Cruz: Quoted from the Republican debate to define 'New York values' "I have great relationship with God. I have great relationship with the evangelicals." — Donald Trump: Trump discussing his faith and evangelical support on Jake Tapper’s program "One out of three African-American men may well end up going to prison." — Hillary Clinton: Clinton’s Democratic debate claim about racial disparities in incarceration

Implications: Listeners are left with a strongly anti-establishment, anti-media interpretation of both parties’ primaries: Republicans are fighting over cultural symbolism, Democrats over identity politics. The episode predicts Cruz benefits in Iowa, while Trump’s and Clinton’s rhetoric may deepen distrust in both candidates.

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