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Ep. 692 - The World’s Most Amusing Game Of Chicken

Trump plays chicken with Pelosi and Schumer, heads to the border, and considers declaring a national emergency. Date: 1–10-2019 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Executive Summary: The episode centers on Trump’s border-wall standoff with Pelosi and Schumer, the government shutdown, and the prospect of a national emergency declaration. Shapiro argues Democrats are politically vulnerable on border security and crime, but warns Trump’s emergency strategy and immigration concessions could backfire. He broadens into a larger defense of virtue, assimilation, and limited government, while condemning racist rhetoric from Steve King and liberal double standards on bigotry.

Main Topics: Trump vs. Pelosi/Schumer over border wall funding (Priority: 5/5): The core political fight is the shutdown and Trump’s demand for $5.7 billion for wall/barrier funding, contrasted with Democrats’ refusal and accusations that Trump stormed out of talks. National emergency as an ill-advised fallback (Priority: 5/5): Shapiro argues a unilateral emergency declaration would likely be blocked by courts, fail to build the wall, and create bad constitutional precedent. Immigration, crime, and border security rhetoric (Priority: 5/5): He defends stronger border security as politically and substantively justified, criticizing Democrats’ indifference to illegal-immigrant crime and arguing walls are effective in specific contexts. Shutdown politics and public pressure (Priority: 4/5): The transcript highlights the shutdown’s real economic harm to federal workers and surrounding businesses, suggesting pressure could shift against Democrats as well as Trump. Immigration, welfare state, and assimilation philosophy (Priority: 4/5): Shapiro expands into a broader ideological case: a large welfare state conflicts with open immigration, and American success depends on virtue, work, and assimilation rather than government guarantees. Steve King and racialized nationalism (Priority: 5/5): He sharply condemns Steve King’s comments linking white nationalism/white supremacy to Western civilization, calling for censure and support for a challenger. Media and cultural double standards (Priority: 3/5): The episode criticizes CNN and other outlets for selectively outrage-driven treatment of conservatives while excusing similar or worse conduct by liberals.

Key Arguments: Trump’s public break with Pelosi and Schumer is effective politics because Democrats are unwilling to negotiate on meaningful border security. Democrats are politically exposed because they can’t persuasively explain why barriers or wall funding are unnecessary when experts and border officials say walls work. A national emergency declaration would probably be struck down quickly in court and therefore would not deliver the wall. The shutdown causes real harm to workers and businesses, so Democrats will also face pressure, not just Trump. Illegal immigration is tied to crime, visa overstays, and asylum abuse; the border problem is not just about a physical wall but also enforcement and employer incentives. A generous welfare state is hard to reconcile with open borders; societies that maintain strong welfare systems usually have stricter immigration controls. The deeper solution to immigration and social conflict is a return to virtue, community responsibility, and limited government rather than reliance on state power. Steve King’s comments are not merely clumsy but explicitly racist because they equate white nationalism/white supremacy with Western civilization. The left applies bigotry standards inconsistently, condemning conservative figures while tolerating anti-Catholic or other prejudicial questioning from Democrats. Politicians often mirror and amplify their base’s worst impulses instead of leading constituents toward principled positions.

Data Points: Border wall funding request: $5.7 billion - Amount Trump sought from Congress for border barrier funding. Federal shutdown impact start of missed paychecks: January 11 - Date mentioned when federal workers would begin missing paychecks. Government shutdown cost: about $1 billion a week - Estimated weekly cost to the federal government during shutdown. L.A. Times market volatility reference: S&P dropped 50 percent - Used in a Birch Gold ad to reference a prior downturn and retirement-account losses. Business sales decline: 60% - Food stand operator in downtown Washington said sales fell about 60% during the shutdown. Mint Mobile savings: 15 bucks a month - Advertised wireless plan cost used in sponsor read. Mint Mobile plan sizes: 2, 5, or 10 gigabyte 4G LTE plans - Specific data-plan options mentioned in sponsor ad. Dollar Shave Club starter set: 5 bucks - Promoted starter set price in sponsor read. Charitable giving by Americans: $400 billion a year - Shapiro cited annual American charity to argue for voluntary community support over government redistribution.

Pivotal Quotes: "I find China, frankly, in many ways to be far more honorable than Brian, Chuck and Nancy." — President Trump: Trump’s criticism of Pelosi and Schumer during the shutdown fight, as quoted in the transcript. "The wall works 100%." — Brandon Judd: Border Patrol Council president endorsing the effectiveness of a physical barrier. "white nationalist, white supremacist, Western civilization, how did that language become offensive?" — Steve King: The remark Shapiro cites as evidence that King was explicitly racializing Western civilization.

Implications: The episode predicts continued shutdown brinkmanship, legal defeat for any emergency workaround, and possible GOP infighting over immigration concessions. It also signals a broader conservative argument for border security, assimilation, and cultural renewal over state-centric solutions.

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