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Ep. 753 - Big Brother Meets Big Tech

Facebook looks to the government for help censoring viewpoints, the old guard Democrats clash with the socialists, and we check the mailbag! Date: 4-05-2019 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Executive Summary: The episode centers on Ben Shapiro’s warning that Big Tech is increasingly inviting government censorship, citing Facebook’s push for speech regulation and Google’s collapse of its AI ethics board after employee backlash. He also contrasts establishment Democrats with rising socialists, covers Jussie Smollett, the border crisis, and mailbag questions on marijuana, abortion, affirmative action, Judaism, and Israel.

Main Topics: Big Tech, censorship, and government regulation (Priority: 5/5): Shapiro argues Facebook and Google are abandoning free-speech principles by seeking government help to police content, which he says would entrench censorship and protect large firms at the expense of smaller competitors and ordinary users. Google AI ethics board collapse (Priority: 5/5): Google disbanded its AI ethics council after employee and activist outrage over Heritage Foundation president Kay Cole James serving on it. Shapiro presents this as proof that tech companies are intolerant of ideological diversity and prone to mob pressure. Democratic Party generational and ideological split (Priority: 4/5): He describes a clash between establishment Democrats like Pelosi/Biden and socialist insurgents like Bernie Sanders, arguing the party has no stable principles and is being pulled left by activist pressure. Jussie Smollett fallout and prosecutorial criticism (Priority: 4/5): Shapiro discusses Chicago’s attempt to recover investigation costs from Smollett and uses the case to attack Cook County prosecutor Kim Foxx’s handling of the matter and other cases. Border security and immigration debate (Priority: 4/5): He defends strict border enforcement, criticizes AOC’s mockery of a reporter wearing a flak vest, and frames the border as dangerous because of cartel violence and weak enforcement. Mailbag: marijuana, abortion, affirmative action, Judaism, and Israel (Priority: 3/5): In extended Q&A, Shapiro argues government should punish harms, not moral sins; opposes abortion even in rape cases on life grounds; criticizes affirmative action; explains Jewish denominations; and defends Israel against campus anti-Israel activism. Cultural commentary and recommendations (Priority: 2/5): He praises Vox Lux for its critique of culture and celebrates adoption, then closes with sponsor content and a discussion of economic warning signs via Birch Gold.

Key Arguments: Big Tech firms prefer government regulation because it shifts blame and can entrench their market power while making it harder for smaller competitors to offer alternative speech policies. Facebook’s request that the government regulate speech is, in Shapiro’s view, a de facto call for censorship that violates First Amendment principles. Google’s ethics board collapse demonstrates that tech firms will not tolerate genuine ideological diversity when activists object, even to mainstream conservative participation. Democrats are splitting between older establishment figures and younger socialists; without durable principles, leaders like Biden and Pelosi can be pushed aside by activist pressure. The Jussie Smollett case reflects prosecutorial failure and selective enforcement rather than a one-off scandal. Border security is a legitimate public-safety issue because cartel violence and organized crime make the border dangerous. Government should address external harm, not impose moral standards; therefore marijuana policy is a question of state competence and harm reduction, not morality alone. Abortion is fundamentally about the status of the unborn child, not merely parental responsibility, so rape does not change the moral argument in his view. Affirmative action is criticized for stigmatizing beneficiaries, excluding some groups unfairly, and failing to produce the outcomes it promises. Anti-Israel activism on campuses is tied to simplistic left-wing narratives about oppressor vs. oppressed and often ignores the reality of terrorism and Israeli self-defense.

Data Points: Amazon nonfiction ranking: Top three - Shapiro says The Right Side of History remains in Amazon’s top three nonfiction books. New York Times bestseller rank: #3 - He notes the book reached number three in its second week on the NYT list. New York Times bestseller rank (first week): #1 - He says the book was number one in its first week. Honey users: More than 10 million - Promotional mention for Honey Best Price Finder. Chrome store reviews: Over 100,000 five-star reviews - Used in the Honey ad segment. Google employees petitioning AI council: Almost 2,400 - Employees signed a petition objecting to Kay Cole James on Google’s AI ethics board. Facebook/Google AI ethics council members: Disbanded - Google ended the board after backlash. UK online harm plan: Duty of care with fines and personal liability - Describes proposed regulation for social media executives in Britain. Molly Russell case context: Suicide linked to self-harm images - Used to justify proposed UK regulation of harmful content. Smollett reimbursement demand: $130,000 - Chicago sought repayment for police overtime and investigative costs. Smollett criminal counts: 16 counts dropped - He discusses the Cook County State’s Attorney dropping charges. Border violence increase: Over 200% - Shapiro cites increased violence against border patrol agents. Daily Wire subscriber shoutout: EJ Cronin - Friday subscriber recognition segment. Convention of States support: 3.8 million people - Shapiro says nearly 4 million have signed on. YouTube subscriber offer: $9.99/month or $99/year - Promotional mention for Daily Wire membership.

Pivotal Quotes: "Facebook is now begging the government to censor it." — Ben Shapiro: Core thesis of the segment on tech companies and state power. "You never apologize to the mob, is the rule of modern American politics." — Ben Shapiro: Used to explain why Democratic figures and public officials keep getting punished despite concessions. "What is the path to that? I think it’s the Affordable Care Act. And if that leads to Medicare for All, that may be the path." — Nancy Pelosi: Quoted to show the establishment Democrat response to socialist policy demands.

Implications: The episode warns that state-backed moderation could normalize censorship, harden tech monopolies, and shrink ideological diversity. It also suggests Democrats face internal ideological implosion, while border, criminal-justice, and campus-politics disputes will keep escalating.

From the Transcript

It essentially crowded lower-down competitors out of the search engine market. That's why Google is in favor of net neutrality. It wasn't out of any goodness of their heart or anything. Big companies have an interest in working hand in glove with the government. Well, the latest company to do this is, of course, Facebook. So, Facebook is now begging the government to censor it. I am not kidding you, Facebook wants censorship at this point. So, Mark Zuckerberg was on with George Stephanopoulos, and he says that he wants the federal government to regulate speech. Why? Because he recognizes that Facebook. Facebook is getting beaten up for its own failures to, on the one hand, censor speech, and on the other hand, they censor too much speech. So, what he wants to do is kick the responsibility over to the federal government and thereby remove himself from the process. This is what he says to George Stephanopoulos. He poses this in terms of the public good. He says, I want more regulation in my company. Whenever somebody who's the head of a company says, I want the government to regulate my company, understand there's an ulterior motive. And the ulterior motive is almost always, I want the government to do something that will make my bottom line more lucrative while shielding me.

Ben Shapiro · at 4:12

Did not have the courage of his convictions because he was unwilling to simply come out and say, Listen, I've never sexually harassed anyone. I've never sexually abused anyone. And if people were offended, I'm sorry. I'm just a physically affectionate guy. Instead of him just saying that and letting it go, he adds a kow-tow to the mob. It's not going to stop. Once you kow-tow to the mob, it never stops, ever. You never apologize to the mob, is the rule of modern American politics. If you don't apologize to the mob like Ralph Northam, you're still governor of Virginia. If you do apologize to the mob like Al Franken, you no longer have a Senate seat. That's the way this works. It's unfortunate. But that is the way that it works. And we are now supposed to take seriously every allegation of something terrible happening. I mentioned yesterday one of the allegations from a woman named Sophie Karasek, a survivors' rights advocate and progressive organizer who appeared at the Oscars with Lady Gaga.

Ben Shapiro · at 17:52

Of healthcare for all Americans, quality, affordable health care for all Americans, what is the path to that? I think it's the Affordable Care Act. And if that leads to Medicare for All, that may be the path. She also suggested that Medicare for All had become more of a buzzword among political activists in the run-up to the 2020 campaign, which is basically her ripping on all the 2020 candidates saying, you guys are ignoring the effect of Obamacare so that you can run for president. She says, when most people say they're for Medicare for all, I think they mean healthcare for all. Let's see what that means. A lot of people love having their employees. Based insurance and the Affordable Care Act gave them better benefits, which is not actually true, but sure. The fact that Nancy Pelosi has now been castigated as out of the mainstream by her own party is pretty telling. The fact that Joe Biden is now considered retrograde by his own party demonstrates that when you have no fundamental principles to which you adhere, it is pretty easy for you to be cast overboard by the newer, more robust socialists among you. It's pretty incredible. Meanwhile, President Trump faced

Nancy Pelosi · at 22:20
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