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Ep. 865 - Release The Secret Weapon!

Democrats go all-in on an unspecified whistleblower claim against Trump, new polls give Elizabeth Warren the momentum, and we check the mailbag! Date: 09-20-2019 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Executive Summary: The episode centers on an emerging Trump-Ukraine whistleblower controversy, weighing possible quid pro quo and impeachment implications while stressing that the facts remain unconfirmed. Shapiro argues that merely seeking foreign opposition research is not illegal, but conditioning U.S. aid on probing Joe Biden would be serious and impeachable. He also links the scandal to 2020 polling, suggesting it could hurt Biden and help Elizabeth Warren, then pivots to critiques of Warren's healthcare plans and commentary on Trudeau, Sharpton, and media pile-ons.

Main Topics: Trump whistleblower complaint and Ukraine allegations (Priority: 5/5): Shapiro breaks down the whistleblower complaint, the intelligence community inspector general's role, DNI resistance to transmission, and speculation that the complaint concerns Trump pressing Ukraine about Joe Biden and military aid. Impeachment, quid pro quo, and legal distinction (Priority: 5/5): He distinguishes between asking foreign officials for opposition research (which he says is not criminal) and conditioning taxpayer-funded U.S. aid on investigating a domestic rival (which he calls impeachable and likely illegal). Hunter Biden, Burisma, and the Biden-Ukraine controversy (Priority: 4/5): The episode revisits reporting on Joe Biden's push to fire a Ukrainian prosecutor amid concern over Burisma, where Hunter Biden served on the board, arguing that this history explains why Trump allies focused on Ukraine. Polling and 2020 political fallout (Priority: 4/5): Shapiro discusses Fox News polling showing Trump trailing Democratic contenders, arguing that the scandal could damage Joe Biden more than Trump and potentially strengthen Elizabeth Warren if Biden is weakened. Elizabeth Warren's rise and policy credibility (Priority: 4/5): He criticizes Warren's Medicare for All messaging as deceptive, arguing her healthcare plan would not let people keep their doctors and would require higher taxes and government control. Culture war commentary: Trudeau, Sharpton, and selective outrage (Priority: 3/5): The latter segment attacks perceived hypocrisy in progressive moral enforcement, using Justin Trudeau's blackface controversy and Al Sharpton's history of inflammatory remarks as examples. Media/social-media hypocrisy and deplatforming-style pile-ons (Priority: 3/5): Shapiro closes with a critique of how public figures such as PewDiePie are accused of extremism once they become popular, arguing that online outrage is often selective and opportunistic.

Key Arguments: The whistleblower story is still too vague to conclude wrongdoing, and Democrats are speculating before the full complaint is public. If Trump used U.S. aid as leverage to make Ukraine investigate Joe Biden, that would be impeachable and a serious abuse of power. Requesting or receiving foreign opposition research is not automatically criminal; the act becomes illegal only if it crosses into coordinated crime such as hacking or bribery. Democrats and media outlets are applying standards to Trump that they ignore when similar foreign-election interactions involve their own side. The Biden-Ukraine story gives Trump a plausible political defense and could shift scrutiny back onto Biden rather than Trump. Elizabeth Warren may benefit politically if Biden is weakened, because she can present herself as the cleaner anti-corruption alternative. Warren's Medicare for All rhetoric is misleading because eliminating private insurance would likely reduce doctor participation and force tax increases. Progressive outrage often functions selectively, punishing opponents while excusing allies who violate the same norms.

Data Points: U.S. military aid to Ukraine: $250 million - Referenced as the aid package allegedly connected to pressure on Ukraine Trump head-to-head vs. Biden: 52% to 38% - Fox News poll cited to show Biden leading Trump Trump head-to-head vs. Elizabeth Warren: 46% to 40% - Fox News poll cited as a closer matchup Trump head-to-head vs. Kamala Harris: 42% to 40% - Fox News poll cited in discussion of potential 2020 matchups Trump head-to-head vs. Bernie Sanders: 48% to 40% - Fox News poll cited as Trump’s strongest matchup among the candidates mentioned Democrats who think Biden is most likely to beat Trump: 42% - Fox News poll result cited in evaluating primary preferences Democrats who think Bernie Sanders is most likely to beat Trump: 17% - Fox News poll result cited in evaluating primary preferences Democrats who think Elizabeth Warren is most likely to beat Trump: 12% - Fox News poll result cited in evaluating primary preferences Hunter Biden compensation at Burisma: Up to $50,000 per month - New York Times reporting summarized during the Ukraine/Burisma discussion Joe Biden's threatened loan guarantees to Ukraine: $1 billion - Used to illustrate Biden's pressure campaign on the Ukrainian prosecutor

Pivotal Quotes: "There is no privilege to be corrupt." — Ben Shapiro: On claims that the White House could shield alleged misconduct from Congress "If you like your doctor, you will not be able to keep your doctor." — Ben Shapiro: Criticizing Elizabeth Warren's Medicare for All explanation "The only thing I asked about Joe Biden is to get to the bottom of how it was that Lutsenko..." — Rudy Giuliani: CNN interview excerpt where Giuliani both denied and admitted asking Ukraine about Biden

Implications: If the Ukraine allegations prove true, the story could drive impeachment pressure and reshape 2020 dynamics. If not, it may mainly reinforce partisan distrust and boost Warren by weakening Biden while leaving Trump politically battered but not legally endangered.

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