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Ep. 984 - Models Of Doom

The White House releases models suggesting at least 100,000 Americans could die in the coronavirus pandemic; the Fed continues to pump dollars into the economy; and partisanship continues to rear its ugly head. Check out The Cold War: What We Saw, a new podcast written and presented by Bill Whittle

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Executive Summary: The episode centers on the accelerating coronavirus crisis, emphasizing grim hospital conditions, the effectiveness of social distancing, uncertainty in fatality modeling, and the need for masks, supplies, and economic support. Shapiro also criticizes media politicization, defends supply-chain workers and the Fed’s emergency actions, attacks the WHO and China over pandemic mismanagement, and argues against “common good” constitutionalism as a threat to limited government.

Main Topics: Coronavirus severity and hospital strain (Priority: 5/5): Shapiro opens with New York ER reports, rising deaths and cases, and the strain on ventilators, ICU space, and medical staff as evidence that the pandemic is deeply serious. Social distancing, lockdowns, and model uncertainty (Priority: 5/5): He argues that mitigation measures are working in many places, but stresses that all forecasts are highly uncertain and must be revised as new data arrives. Media politicization and timeline blame games (Priority: 4/5): He criticizes journalists and partisan commentators for turning the outbreak into a blame game, comparing COVID-19 to wars and terrorist attacks, and using hindsight to assign fault. Economic emergency, Fed action, and reopening concerns (Priority: 5/5): The episode covers Federal Reserve liquidity efforts, the impossibility of indefinite shutdowns, and the need for a plan to return people safely to work without collapsing the economy. Masks, PPE, and protecting essential workers (Priority: 4/5): Shapiro argues masks should be normalized, especially to reduce transmission and prevent face-touching, and highlights the need to accelerate PPE and supply production. WHO, China, and global institutional failure (Priority: 4/5): He claims the WHO failed by trusting Chinese data and praises calls to reconsider U.S. support for international institutions that he says enabled Beijing’s cover-up. Constitutional philosophy and 'common good' conservatism (Priority: 3/5): Shapiro critiques Adrian Vermeule’s 'common good constitutionalism' as anti-originalist and incompatible with limited government, arguing it invites arbitrary state power.

Key Arguments: Social distancing is working: he points to flatter curves in places that locked down earlier or are less densely populated. COVID-19 modeling is useful but highly provisional; the numbers will change as assumptions and data change. Comparisons of pandemic deaths to Vietnam or 9/11 are misleading because disease mortality is not comparable to war or terrorism. The U.S. cannot remain shut down indefinitely because unemployment and economic damage are becoming unsustainable. Masks should be widely used once people leave home because they help reduce transmission and discourage face-touching. The WHO and China failed catastrophically by minimizing the outbreak and suppressing accurate information. Originalism is a necessary constraint on government; 'common good constitutionalism' risks turning courts into moral rulers with no limiting principle.

Data Points: U.S. coronavirus deaths: more than 4,000 - Shapiro says the U.S. has surpassed 4,000 deaths and expects the number to keep rising. New U.S. deaths in one day: nearly 1,000 - He cites Worldometers data for the prior day’s death toll. U.S. diagnosed cases: close to 200,000 - He uses this to underscore the scale of infection in the U.S. Fauci projected deaths with mitigation: 100,000 to 240,000 - Presented as the White House model range even with mitigation measures. Annual U.S. deaths from heart disease: about 600,000 - Used to contextualize the model’s death estimates. Annual U.S. deaths from cancer: about 650,000 - Used as a comparison for the scale of fatalities. U.S. deaths per 1 million population: 12 - Shapiro contrasts the U.S. with harder-hit countries. Italy deaths per 1 million population: 206 - Used to show how much worse the outbreak has been in Italy. France deaths per 1 million population: 54 - Cited as a country further along the curve than the U.S. Netherlands deaths per 1 million population: 68 - Used in his comparison of European trends. Belgium deaths per 1 million population: 71 - Included in the comparison of outbreak severity. Projected U.S. deaths if at 70 per million: approximately 23,000 - Shapiro estimates this based on European comparison rates. CDC hospitalized patients with at least one underlying condition: 78% - He cites CDC data linking comorbidities to severe disease. CDC non-ICU hospitalized patients with at least one underlying condition: 71% - Shows elevated risk among people with pre-existing conditions. CDC non-hospitalized cases with at least one underlying condition: 27% - Used to contrast with hospitalized patients. U.S. share of WHO annual budget: nearly 15% - Shapiro argues the U.S. heavily funds the WHO despite its failures. China share of WHO annual budget: about 2% - Cited to argue China exerts influence without proportional funding. WHO/Taiwan data: 5 deaths out of 329 cases - Shapiro cites Taiwan as a successful comparator in pandemic response. Small business loan cap: up to $10 million - Explains the new loan program details for businesses impacted by the pandemic. Payroll-based loan size: 2.5 times total payroll expenses - Describes the paycheck protection program calculation. Interest rate on Treasury-set loans: 0.5% - Cites the Treasury Department’s rate for the program. Loan forgiveness window: first 8 weeks - Loans may be forgiven if used to keep employees and cover bills early in the loan period. Temporary loan term: 2 years - He notes repayment timing for the small business loans. Projected job losses: 6 million jobs in two weeks - He uses this to argue that the economy cannot stay fully shut down. Amazon worker raise: $2 an hour - Mentioned in the discussion of warehouse workers and workplace safety protests.

Pivotal Quotes: "This is not the flu." — Donald Trump (quoted by Ben Shapiro): Used to mark the administration’s shift from minimizing the virus to acknowledging its severity. "models are as good as the assumptions you put into them." — Anthony Fauci: Shapiro uses this to emphasize uncertainty in COVID-19 forecasting. "the government is a giant lumbering idiot" — Ben Shapiro: Shapiro’s broader critique of expansive government power and his opposition to emergency logic becoming normal politics.

Implications: Listeners are urged to treat the virus as serious, support mitigation and PPE, but also prepare for reopening, economic strain, and intense political fights over competence, authority, and constitutional limits.

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