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Eric Crittenden, Standpoint Asset Management – The Market Owes You Nothing | #389

Our guest today is Eric Crittenden, Chief Investment Officer of Standpoint Asset Management, an investment firm focused on bringing all-weather portfolio solutions to US investors. In today’s episode, we’re talking with one of the true systematic investors out there. We start by discussing the poten

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Executive Summary: Eric Crittenden argues that investors should stop expecting stocks and bonds to reliably deliver smooth returns, especially if inflation and stagflation persist. He advocates a rules-based, long/short trend-following approach paired with global equity beta inside one tax- and fee-conscious vehicle to reduce behavioral friction, diversify across regimes, and capture returns from risk transfer markets without relying on traditional 60/40 assumptions.

Main Topics: Inflation, stagflation, and regime uncertainty (Priority: 5/5): The conversation centers on whether current inflation is transitory or the start of a more persistent stagflationary regime. Crittenden says nobody knows, so portfolios should be built to handle both inflation and deflation outcomes. Why the market owes investors nothing (Priority: 5/5): Crittenden frames stocks and bonds as capital formation and risk-transfer markets, not utilities designed to deliver a target annual return. He argues investors must align expectations with how markets actually function. Trend following as a robust, systematic process (Priority: 5/5): He defends trend following as a disciplined, rules-based way to participate in large market moves, including crashes and inflationary surges, without needing to predict macro outcomes. Blending managed futures with global equities (Priority: 5/5): Standpoint’s product combines managed futures with global equity beta inside one fund so investors get the diversification benefits without having to endure line-item volatility or behavioral whiplash. Market breadth, valuation, and historical parallels (Priority: 4/5): He compares today’s environment with prior turning points such as 1998-2000 and 2007-2008, noting that market-cap indices can mask deterioration in the average stock and that expensive assets plus negative real yields create fragility. Capital efficiency, futures, and portfolio construction (Priority: 4/5): Crittenden explains how futures allow capital to be used more efficiently, enabling the same pool of money to support both trend exposure and equity beta while keeping risk targets reasonable. Behavioral issues and investor expectations (Priority: 4/5): The discussion repeatedly returns to the challenge of investor behavior, especially how bull markets inflate return expectations and make it difficult for advisors to hold diversified allocations through periods of relative underperformance.

Key Arguments: Inflation is not a single thing; depending on the definition, it may already be here, or it may still be developing. That uncertainty argues for a portfolio that can handle both inflation and deflation. The stock market is a capital formation mechanism, not a guaranteed-return product. Investors should not expect it to reliably produce 8-10% annually. The assumption that bonds will always protect stocks is one of the most dangerous in asset management; the 1970s show that stocks and bonds can both struggle at the same time. Trend following is attractive because it does not require a macro forecast; it simply adapts to price trends and can profit in both inflationary and deflationary regimes. Small, obscure futures markets are not necessarily better than large liquid ones; after testing, Crittenden found no meaningful deterioration in concentrating on the most liquid markets, while reducing slippage and improving scalability. The best diversifier for a managed futures program turned out to be global market-cap equities, making an internal blend of futures plus equities more efficient than selling a separate alternative product. Many investors and advisors focus on education to change behavior, but Crittenden argues it is more effective to engineer products that reduce behavioral pain and statement-level volatility. Long/short exposure in futures allows the strategy to participate in both rising and falling markets and to hedge equity exposure during bear markets without forced selling of stocks. Capital efficiency matters: futures use only a fraction of capital, so the remaining capital can be allocated to equities rather than sitting idle in low-yield cash. Risk management is central: successful traders know their stop-loss level and approximate downside on every trade before entering it.

Data Points: Crocpland loss to urbanization: Approximately 4.8 acres per minute - Used in the farmland sponsor message to illustrate long-term land scarcity and agricultural relevance. Farmland investment minimum: $15,000 - AcreTrader minimum for passive farmland access. Fed funds vs. 2-year Treasury: Described as closely tracking each other - Used to argue the Fed often follows market pricing rather than independently driving it. Copper price: Around $5 per pound - Mentioned as a near-all-time-high / stealth bull market example. Global equities market cap expectation: ARK-type outlook from about $10T to $200T by decade end - Cited as an example of very aggressive forward return assumptions. World global equity market cap: About $100T - Used to contextualize the ARK projection as an enormous share of global market value. Bond simulation scenarios: 3,000 Monte Carlo outcomes; only 1 positive real return - Referenced to argue government bonds are unlikely to deliver positive real returns from current yields. Negative yield level needed for 10-year Treasuries: About -6% on the 10-year - Illustrated how extreme yields would need to become for bonds to produce historical return-like outcomes. Managed futures program markets: 75 most liquid futures markets - Standpoint’s current universe, reduced from a prior 120-market approach. Annualized volatility: About 10% to 11% - Reported realized volatility for the blended fund over a volatile two-year period. Equity sleeve size: About half the portfolio - Dedicated global equity exposure within the all-weather fund, allowed to range from one-third to two-thirds. Equity exposure band: One-third to two-thirds - Guardrails used to reduce turnover and maintain a target equity allocation. Turnover reduction: About 90% less than the median rebalancing approach - Claimed benefit of the fund’s equity-rebalancing framework. Carbon emissions credits move: Around 5 to 88 - Example of a highly profitable, liquid, little-discussed trend-following position. Average stock peak timing: About 1.5 to 2 years before the cap-weighted index peak - Used to argue that market breadth often deteriorates long before major index peaks, as in 2000. Historical drawdowns referenced: 40% to 50% drawdowns - Used as hallmarks of stagflationary or severe bear-market environments. Advisor allocation habit: Almost half reported 0% trend exposure; about 25% reported 0%-20% - Referenced from a tweet poll to show trend following is still underrepresented.

Pivotal Quotes: "The market owes you nothing." — Eric Crittenden: Core philosophy on why investors should not expect markets to deliver smooth or guaranteed returns. "The assumption that bonds will always bail you out when stocks go down is the most dangerous assumption in the asset management industry." — Eric Crittenden: His warning against over-reliance on the 60/40 stock-bond relationship. "I want to put myself in a position to compound at a reasonable rate with the least amount of iceberg risk through any kind of market environment that we get in the future." — Eric Crittenden: His definition of an optimal portfolio and the rationale for blending managed futures with equities.

Implications: Investors should rethink 60/40 dependence and build portfolios for multiple regimes, not just disinflation. Trend following plus equity beta may offer a more durable all-weather framework, but only if investors accept less certainty and more process discipline.

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