Macro Musings
Macro Musings

George Selgin on Strategic Bitcoin Reserves, Debanking, and the Fed's Framework Review

George Selgin is a senior fellow and director emeritus of the Center for Monetary and Financial Alternatives at the Cato Institute. George is also a returning guest to the program, and he rejoins David on Macro Musings to talk about crypto, strategic Bitcoin reserves, and the Fed's framework re

Featured Speakers

David Beckworth HostGeorge Selgin Guest

Topics Discussed

Episode Summary

Executive Summary: The episode covers three intertwined macro-financial debates: why a U.S. strategic Bitcoin reserve makes little sense as dollar policy, how regulatory “shadow banking” pressures have enabled debanking in crypto/fintech, and why the Fed’s framework review keeps converging toward nominal GDP-level stability under inflation-targeting language. Selgin argues Bitcoin reserves would mainly boost Bitcoin’s price, not the dollar; debanking reveals politicized supervision; and the Fed should move toward a clearer nominal-spending rule.

Main Topics: Strategic Bitcoin reserves and the 'digital gold' thesis (Priority: 5/5): Selgin rejects proposals for a U.S. Bitcoin reserve—whether Trump’s hold-the-seized-coin idea or larger reserve-building plans—as misguided analogies to strategic commodities, sovereign wealth funds, or international reserves. He argues Bitcoin held by the government would sit idle like Fort Knox gold and would not strengthen the dollar. Why Bitcoin would not backstop the dollar (Priority: 5/5): The discussion explains that reserve-currency countries and non-reserve countries have different motives for holding gold and foreign exchange. The U.S. does not need foreign exchange reserves, does not intervene meaningfully in FX markets, and already issues the world’s reserve currency, so Bitcoin holdings would not improve dollar credibility or monetary policy. Stablecoins, crypto networks, and indirect dollar demand (Priority: 4/5): Beckworth raises the argument that Bitcoin’s growth could increase stablecoin use and thereby Treasury demand. Selgin agrees stablecoins can be useful payment media but says the connection from Bitcoin to dollar strength is weak and mostly speculative; buying Bitcoin is not the same as increasing its use as money. Debanking, Operation Choke Point 2.0, and shadow regulation (Priority: 5/5): The conversation shifts to claims that regulators and supervisors pressured banks to cut off crypto, fintech, and politically disfavored clients. Selgin frames this as part of a broader, largely undocumented shadow-regulatory system where examiners effectively create rules beyond the statute books. Need for regulatory overhaul and fair access to banking (Priority: 4/5): Caitlin Long’s critique is highlighted: subjective bank-exam tools, confidentiality, and lack of checks-and-balances allow politicization. Selgin agrees the debanking episode should trigger structural reform of the bank examination process so regulators enforce laws rather than improvise policy. Fed framework review and the drift toward nominal GDP targeting (Priority: 5/5): The final section argues that repeated Fed framework revisions—2% inflation targeting, flexible average inflation targeting, and likely future variants—are all attempts to approximate nominal GDP stability while avoiding the explicit language of nominal GDP targeting, which Selgin sees as superior. Makeup policy, symmetry, and macroeconomic stability (Priority: 5/5): Selgin and Beckworth discuss why a framework should be symmetric, robust to shocks, credible, communicable, and include makeup policy. They argue the Fed is gradually converging on nominal GDP-level targeting but is slowed by institutional and rhetorical constraints tied to the dual mandate and inflation-targeting vocabulary.

Key Arguments: A U.S. Bitcoin reserve would likely raise Bitcoin’s price and reward holders, but it would not materially strengthen the dollar or its reserve status. The U.S. does not need foreign-exchange reserves the way other countries do, because it issues the world’s reserve currency and generally allows a flexible exchange rate. Gold in U.S. reserves is largely a historical relic from the Bretton Woods era, not an essential support for the dollar; Bitcoin would be the same kind of idle asset. Stablecoins can improve payments and could support dollar usage, but that does not depend on the government holding Bitcoin. Debanking is not just a crypto story; it reflects a wider system of regulator-driven, extralegal pressure that can deny financial access without legislative authorization. Reputational risk and adverse-media screening are too subjective and too easily politicized to remain powerful supervisory levers without reform. The Fed’s successive framework reviews suggest it is implicitly searching for nominal GDP stability while remaining trapped by inflation-targeting language. Makeup policy and symmetry matter because they help prevent repeated undershoots or overshoots and reduce the chance of severe recessions or overheating. Nominal GDP-level targeting would better capture the true macroeconomic objective: stabilizing aggregate demand/spending rather than only inflation or employment in isolation.

Data Points: Trump proposal: Keep all seized Bitcoin as a reserve - Described as the 'baby bear' strategic Bitcoin reserve proposal Robert F. Kennedy Jr. proposal: 4 million Bitcoin - Described as the 'papa bear' reserve proposal; more than one-fifth of outstanding Bitcoin Sen. Cynthia Lummis proposal: At least 1 million Bitcoin - Described as the 'mama bear' reserve proposal U.S. gold holdings: Over 8,000 tons - Selgin cites U.S. official gold stock at Fort Knox and Mint branches U.S. gold book value: $42.22 per ounce - Book value versus much higher market price Dollar share of global reserves: About 58% - Selgin notes the dollar remains by far the leading reserve currency Euro share of global reserves: About 20% - Second-place reserve currency, far behind the dollar Federal FX intervention since 2011: None - Used to show the U.S. does not actively manage its exchange rate U.S. FX intervention since 1998: Only three episodes - Selgin says these were mostly aid-like interventions, not dollar defense Canada’s gold liquidation: About four decades to almost zero holdings - Used as evidence that a country can sell its gold without harming its currency Sovereign CDS spread effect on crypto adoption: 10% increase associated with 3%–4% more app downloads/usage - Beckworth cites Ahmed, Karolyi, and Rastami study on macro drivers of crypto adoption Fintech debanking allegations: 30 founders - Andreessen’s claim about tech and crypto founders debanked over the prior four years

Pivotal Quotes: "We have a culture of, a regulatory culture in which people who are not legislators are effectively creating banking, the equivalent of bank legislation and bank regulatory requirements." — George Selgin: On debanking and shadow regulation "What we're really touching and trying to get a picture of is stability of aggregate demand." — George Selgin: On what the Fed is implicitly targeting through inflation/employment frameworks "I see as a base case, these are his words, a reaction function where you don't overcompensate or you don't overshoot for past misses." — David Beckworth quoting Jay Powell: On Powell’s indication that the Fed may move away from makeup policy

Implications: Bitcoin reserve plans are unlikely to help the dollar and may mainly enrich holders. The bigger policy fight is over debanking and supervisory power. For the Fed, the path forward appears to be explicit, symmetric nominal-spending stabilization rather than ad hoc framework tweaks.

🔓 Sign Up for Unlimited Episode Search

About Macro Musings

Hosted by David Beckworth of the Mercatus Center, Macro Musings pulls back the curtain on the important macroeconomic issues of the past, present, and future.

View all episodes from Macro Musings