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Titans on Tomorrow Ep. 1 - He Foresaw Bud Light Losing $30 BILLION - Then Built the Fix to End Woke Capital

Titans on Tomorrow Ep. 1 with guest Anson Frericks Presented by Ethos: https://ethos.com/titans In a new show on business and finance at this transformative time for the global economy, Ben Shapiro talks directly with the founders, CEOs, and investors building the next decade. Anson Frericks spent 1

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Executive Summary: The episode argues that corporate America drifted from shareholder capitalism into stakeholder/ESG/DEI politics, hurting brands and markets, and that firms should return to mission focus and neutrality. It traces Anson Frericks’ experience inside Anheuser-Busch, the founding of Strive Asset Management to challenge proxy-voting power, and his new AI-enabled healthcare venture Radley Health, which uses technology and peer support to help people with serious mental illness.

Main Topics: Critique of ESG, DEI, and stakeholder capitalism (Priority: 5/5): Frericks says global institutions and consultants pushed corporations away from serving customers and shareholders toward politicized stakeholder frameworks that often damaged brands and performance. Anheuser-Busch and the Bud Light collapse (Priority: 5/5): He uses Bud Light as the clearest example of a once-neutral mass brand alienating its customer base by taking overt political/identity positions. Why corporations adopt politicized models (Priority: 4/5): The discussion explains pressure coming from boards, asset managers, consultants, index incentives, and collective-action dynamics that force firms to conform. Strive Asset Management as a market response (Priority: 5/5): Frericks and Vivek Ramaswamy built Strive to give investors a shareholder-first alternative, especially through proxy voting and passive funds. AI and serious mental illness at Radley Health (Priority: 5/5): His new company uses AI to process fragmented healthcare records and support peer specialists working with people experiencing schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, and related conditions. AI optimism, jobs, and productivity (Priority: 4/5): Frericks argues AI will create more jobs than it destroys by increasing productivity, enabling new businesses, and expanding economic opportunity. Family values and personal operating principles (Priority: 2/5): He closes by describing his life priorities—faith, freedoms, family, fitness, and fun—as the framework that keeps his work and life aligned.

Key Arguments: Corporate America’s embrace of ESG/DEI was a perversion of capitalism, not its fulfillment, because it subordinated shareholders and customers to external ideological goals. Stakeholder capitalism requires broad coordinated buy-in; otherwise firms that stay focused on customers will outcompete those that politicize. Large asset managers helped drive the shift by aggregating proxy votes and pressuring companies into political positions. Neutral brands should remain neutral; if a company wants an overtly political mission, it should be transparent about it from the start. The Bud Light backlash showed that ignoring core customers can destroy enormous market value quickly. Strive’s thesis was that investors should control the voting rights attached to their shares and that passive funds should not be used to force politics on corporations. AI can unlock new healthcare models by making complex information usable for lower-cost human workers such as peer specialists. AI should be viewed as a job creator and productivity multiplier, not simply a replacement for workers. Most social problems are business problems in disguise and can be addressed by innovative, technology-enabled companies. Companies and politicians should tell the truth about technological change and emphasize historical evidence that innovation tends to raise living standards over time.

Data Points: Time at Anheuser-Busch: 11 years - Frericks says he spent over a decade inside the company before leaving Market value lost in Bud Light collapse: $30 billion - He says the Bud Light controversy led to massive value destruction Strive’s first-year growth: $1 billion+ in assets within one year - He says Strive became the fastest-growing asset manager to reach that mark Current Strive size: multi-billion dollar asset management company - He describes Strive as having scaled beyond its initial milestone Bitcoin held by Strive: over 20,000 Bitcoin - He notes the firm expanded into Bitcoin treasury activity People with a mental health condition: 1 in 5 - He cites the prevalence of mental health conditions in the U.S. People with a serious mental health condition: 1 in 20 - He cites serious mental illness prevalence Share of GDP spent on healthcare: 1 out of 5 dollars - He frames healthcare as a major national cost burden Peer support specialists in Ohio: 500 - He says Radley now connects 500 independent licensed peer support specialists Ohio counties listed as mental health shortage areas: 70 counties - He uses this to show the need for local support networks Homeless population: 500,000 to 600,000 - He distinguishes homelessness from the much larger serious-mental-illness population Potential activist entry point: $25,000 of stock - He explains how activists can buy a small amount of stock to submit shareholder proposals Pass rate of shareholder proposals: 30% to 40% - He says many proposals passed because large asset managers voted for them Large asset managers’ capital: $20 trillion - He says BlackRock, State Street, and Vanguard manage this scale of capital Ownership influence: single largest shareholders in 95% of the S&P 500 - He claims these firms have outsized proxy influence Bud Light sales decline: down 10%, then 20%, then 30% - He describes the weekly sales drops after the Dylan Mulvaney partnership Investors in fast-growing companies historically: 40% of people in extreme poverty in 1990 to less than 10% now - He uses global poverty decline to argue innovation improves living standards Data center project: $500 billion - He cites a major Ohio data center as evidence of AI-driven investment Commentary on jobs: lowest amount of people seeking jobs on record - He argues labor demand remains strong despite AI fears

Pivotal Quotes: "This could be the greatest era of human flourishing in history: free people, free markets armed with the most powerful tools ever created, making life longer, richer, and freer." — Host: Opening framing of the series and the optimistic case for AI and technological change "The road to hell is tend to be paved with good intentions." — Anson Frericks: He explains how ESG/DEI programs were sold as beneficial before becoming harmful to business "I think we should be separating really capitalism and our markets and business from politics as much as we can." — Anson Frericks: His core policy view on how corporations should operate

Implications: The episode pushes listeners to favor politically neutral, customer-first companies and to see AI as a tool for productivity and new jobs. It suggests future corporate battles will center on proxy power, brand trust, and whether firms can resist ideological capture.

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