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How Jesse Cole Turned Baseball Into a Billion Dollar Show

Jesse Cole, founder of Fans First Entertainment and owner of the Savannah Bananas, author of Find Your Yellow Tux: How to Be Successful by Standing Out, discusses building Banana Ball from a wooden bat league into a billion dollar entertainment brand inspired by Walt Disney and P.T. Barnum. Cole det

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Executive Summary: The conversation centers on Jesse Cole’s transformation of a struggling college summer baseball team into the Banana Ball universe, driven by fan-first entertainment, relentless experimentation, and Walt Disney-like “plussing” of the experience. He explains how scarcity, criticism, and personal family history fueled his obsession with creating joy, and how that mission now shapes business, culture, and parenting. The episode emphasizes purpose over profit, focus over scale, and the power of shared live moments.

Main Topics: From struggling team to Banana Ball universe (Priority: 5/5): Cole recounts buying and rebuilding a failing baseball operation, then evolving it into Banana Ball through years of testing, iteration, and brand-building. Fan-first entertainment philosophy (Priority: 5/5): The core doctrine is to obsess over the fan experience before, during, and after the event, even when it means rejecting conventional sports business models. Walt Disney-inspired innovation and iteration (Priority: 4/5): Cole repeatedly references Disney’s ‘plussing the show,’ immersion, and constant improvement as the blueprint for Banana Ball’s creative process. Personal history and motivation (Priority: 4/5): He connects his fear of irrelevance, childhood loneliness, and desire to be loved/seen to his drive to create meaningful experiences for others. Marriage, foster care, and family purpose (Priority: 4/5): Cole and his wife Emily integrated their business mission with foster care and adoption, creating a family-centered purpose platform alongside the team. Scaling without losing quality (Priority: 5/5): The discussion explores how to grow attendance and reach while preserving the experience, avoiding the dilution that has hurt many leagues and brands. Definition of greatness and legacy (Priority: 3/5): Cole defines greatness as being the best version of yourself, using your gifts, and giving your all in service of others.

Key Arguments: Great businesses are built by creating what you would love yourself, not by copying what already exists. Entertainment can transform a boring traditional product into an emotionally compelling live experience. The best way to win fans is to obsess over every detail of their journey, including pre-show, in-show, and post-show touchpoints. Iteration and experimentation are essential; quality comes from generating many ideas and testing them repeatedly. Scale should never come at the expense of the core fan experience; growth must be strategic and measured. Purpose and mission are more durable than profit; selling out or going public could compromise the values that made the brand special. Personal pain and childhood needs can be channeled into service and creative work that helps others feel seen and loved. Strong families and strong businesses can reinforce each other when built around shared values and intentional communication.

Data Points: Mission target: 100 million lives every single week - Greatness Media’s stated mission mentioned in the intro/outro Debt after taking over: Over $1 million - Cole and his wife’s financial position after buying the team and investing in Savannah Starting bank account: $268 - The team’s bank account on Cole’s first day as GM Annual loss: Over $100,000 per year - How much the original team was losing before turnaround Attendance at start: 200 fans per game - Initial turnout for the struggling team in North Carolina Attendance growth: 2,000 fans per game - A later milestone during the Gastonia years League attendance rank: 4th in the country - Cole says the Gastonia team became fourth in attendance among college summer baseball teams Business revenue: $3 million to $4 million per year - How much the Savannah Bananas reportedly made before Banana Ball expansion Ticket price: $15 total - All-inclusive Savannah game pricing introduced to boost experience and attendance Meat consumed at first all-inclusive game: 10,000 pieces in an hour - Operational challenge after launching the all-inclusive model Waitlist size: Approaching 5 million - Demand for tickets mentioned near the end of the interview Audience reach: 3.4 million fans in 2026 - Cole’s stated annual attendance/served fans figure Followers: Over 40 million - Combined social audience following Banana Ball/Savannah Bananas journey Traveling staff: 200+ people - Size of the touring operation for Banana Ball events Current organization size: 160 players, 150 cast members - Approximate scale of the Banana Ball ecosystem Adoption dates: January 2024 - Cole says both foster children were adopted on the same day Foster care need: 400,000 kids - U.S. children without permanent homes, cited by Emily Cole Show timing at football stadiums: 2:00 p.m. rope drop; 7:00 p.m. game - Example of expanded pre-show programming for large venues Game length experiment: 9 innings in 99 minutes - Early intentional Banana Ball test game at a college Growth milestones: 100,000 tickets in 2022; 500,000 in 2023; 1 million in 2024; 2.2 million in 2025; 3.4 million in 2026 - Cole’s scaling narrative for ticket demand Average front-office bonus: $30,000 to $40,000 - Compensation detail offered to show business health and staff care

Pivotal Quotes: "start small, dream big" — Jesse Cole: Describing the company’s mindset for launching experiments and expanding Banana Ball "Your last impression leaves a lasting impression" — Jesse Cole: His philosophy on staying until the final fan leaves and closing the event strongly "be patient in what you want for yourself, but be impatient in how much you give to others" — Jesse Cole: One of the three truths he would leave behind as a legacy lesson

Implications: The episode argues that enduring brands win by prioritizing emotional connection, not extraction. For sports, media, and live events, the future belongs to creators who obsess over fan joy, protect quality while scaling, and build movements rooted in purpose.

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Lewis Howes is a New York Times best-selling author, 2x All-American athlete, keynote speaker, and entrepreneur. The School of Greatness shares inspiring interviews from the most successful people on the planet—world-renowned leaders in business, entertainment, sports, science, health, and literature—to inspire YOU to unlock your inner greatness and live your best life.

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