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How Nostalgia Serves Corporate Power w/ Grafton Tanner

Paris Marx is joined by Grafton Tanner to discuss how social media constantly resurfaces the past, why film and television uses nostalgia to keep us engaged, and whether there’s a way to wield nostalgia in pursuit of a better world.Grafton Tanner is the author of “The Circle of the Snake: Nostalgia

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Paris Marx HostParis Marks GuestGrafton Tanner Guest

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Episode Summary

Executive Summary: Paris Marks and Grafton Tanner examine nostalgia as a recurring response to instability, amplified by tech platforms that archive, surface, and algorithmically reinforce the past. They argue nostalgia can be politically and commercially weaponized, especially through media franchises, social feeds, and recommendation systems, but can also be redirected toward more democratic, future-building uses.

Main Topics: Why nostalgia intensifies during crisis (Priority: 5/5): Tanner argues nostalgia spikes in periods of trauma and instability, from the Great Recession to Trump and COVID-19, because people seek emotional relief when control feels lost. Restorative vs. reflective nostalgia (Priority: 5/5): Drawing on Svetlana Boym, Tanner distinguishes between restorative nostalgia, which tries to reconstruct an idealized past and serves power, and reflective nostalgia, which is more ironic and self-aware. Technology as a nostalgia engine (Priority: 5/5): Social media, streaming services, and search tools constantly surface older content, building feedback loops that trigger nostalgia and narrow taste toward familiar, derivative material. Media franchises and world-building as frozen culture (Priority: 4/5): The conversation links Marvel, Star Wars, Disney, and other IP-heavy systems to nostalgia mining, copyright control, and the enclosure of culture into profitable, self-contained worlds. VR/AR promises versus material reality (Priority: 4/5): Tanner rejects the idea that virtual reality or augmented reality will solve social problems, emphasizing labor exploitation, environmental costs, and the bodily/material basis of digital life. Social media, memory, and canonization (Priority: 4/5): Platforms encourage users to curate a personal canon of memory, but this can distort the past, erase complexity, and make the present and recent history harder to understand. Radical nostalgia and alternatives (Priority: 5/5): Rather than eliminating nostalgia, Tanner calls for redirecting it toward emancipatory politics and a livable future that resists corporate and technocratic interests.

Key Arguments: Nostalgia tends to intensify during periods of instability, trauma, and social dislocation; it is a recurring historical pattern rather than a new pathology. Modern nostalgia is often politically useful to elites because it can be used to sell products, mobilize voters, and legitimize conservative or reactionary projects. The past is always misremembered, but corporate media and political messaging selectively whitewash darker realities and sell a sanitized version of history. Boym’s distinction matters because restorative nostalgia seeks to restore an idealized origin, while reflective nostalgia acknowledges ambiguity and longing without pretending to recover the past exactly. Digital platforms create nostalgia by constantly resurfacing archived memories and by using recommendation systems that feed users more of what they already like, which narrows cultural possibilities. Algorithms and franchise logic reduce artistic unpredictability by rewarding familiar styles, sequels, reboots, and recognizable IP over original work. VR/AR are not neutral escapes; they depend on exploitative labor, infrastructure, and environmental extraction, so “digital utopia” narratives hide material costs. A healthier response is not to suppress nostalgia but to practice 'radical nostalgia' that helps imagine a more equitable future rather than preserving existing power relations.

Data Points: Year the term 'nostalgia' first appears: 1688 - Tanner notes the word itself emerges in 1688, shaping how the emotion is understood and named. Major crisis reference: 9/11 - Tanner traces a major modern surge in nostalgia back to September 11 and its aftermath. Economic crisis reference: 2008 - The Great Recession is presented as a major outbreak of nostalgia before Trump and COVID-19. Timeline reference: March 2020 - Within weeks of COVID lockdowns, media articles reported immediate nostalgia for pre-lockdown life. Copyright term example: 14 years + 14-year extension - Marks references older U.S. copyright law for published works before later extensions. Copyright term example: life of the author + 75 years - Current copyright terms are cited as enabling long-term corporate control over cultural works. Copyright term example: 90 years - Marks mentions corporate-owned works having very long copyright protection periods.

Pivotal Quotes: "buy this thing, and you too might be able to go back to the past" — Paris Marks: Opening framing of nostalgia as a marketing tool that sells products through promised access to an idealized past. "remembering is misremembering, essentially" — Grafton Tanner: Tanner explains why nostalgia always distorts the past and why sanitized historical memory is inevitable but manipulable. "What emotions serve the public the best?" — Grafton Tanner: Tanner proposes evaluating nostalgia politically, asking whether it helps people or power.

Implications: Listeners are urged to distrust sanitized historical narratives, recognize how platforms and franchises monetize longing, and redirect nostalgia toward collective memory, critical imagination, and a more livable future.

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Silicon Valley wants to shape our future, but why should we let it? Every Thursday, Paris Marx is joined by a new guest to critically examine the tech industry, its big promises, and the people behind them. Tech Won’t Save Us challenges the notion that tech alone can drive our world forward by showing that separating tech from politics has consequences for us all, especially the most vulnerable. It’s not your usual tech podcast.

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