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How Poppi’s founders built a new soda brand worth $2 billion

Allison and Stephen Ellsworth hyperscaled their healthier soda brand Poppi to a truly gigantic exit to Pepsi – nearly $2 billion – and changed an entire category. The married co-founders talk with host Jeff Berman about what it takes to juggle a growing company and family at the same time, how savvy

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Executive Summary: Allison and Stephen Ellsworth recount Poppy’s journey from a homemade apple-cider-vinegar tonic to a roughly $2 billion Pepsi acquisition. The conversation highlights early product-market fit, Whole Foods validation, Shark Tank’s branding and distribution boost, COVID-era digital-first scaling, a viral TikTok strategy, a last-minute Super Bowl ad, and the emotional shift after selling 100% of the company.

Main Topics: Poppy’s origin as a personal health solution (Priority: 5/5): Allison developed the early product to address her own digestive and skin issues, using apple cider vinegar despite disliking the taste. The idea evolved from a health tonic into a soda alternative aimed at helping people enjoy soda again. Early validation and Whole Foods entry (Priority: 5/5): The brand gained legitimacy through farmer’s markets, strong local demand, and an invitation from a Whole Foods forager. Whole Foods helped the founders navigate compliance, manufacturing, packaging, and retail rollout. Shark Tank as a strategic inflection point (Priority: 5/5): The founders went on Shark Tank seeking capital and guidance, secured a deal with beverage veteran Rohan Oza, and used the exposure to rebrand from Mother Beverage to Poppy. COVID-driven digital-first scaling (Priority: 5/5): The pandemic unexpectedly accelerated Amazon sales and pushed the company to build a digital-first marketing engine, especially via TikTok, enabling national reach beyond coastal health-food channels. Super Bowl ad as a growth lever (Priority: 4/5): Poppy bought a last-minute, floating Super Bowl spot built around strong creative, which massively increased awareness and revenue, showing their willingness to take calculated marketing risks. Selling to Pepsi and the post-exit transition (Priority: 5/5): After deciding a larger partner was needed to expand globally, the founders sold 100% of Poppy to Pepsi. They describe both the strategic necessity and the emotional loss of identity after exiting. Founder partnership and family-life tradeoffs (Priority: 4/5): As a married co-founding team, they used shared commitment to weather business stress, but acknowledged that post-exit they had to relearn how to prioritize their relationship outside the company.

Key Arguments: The product succeeded because it solved a real personal problem and delivered health benefits in a form people actually wanted to drink. Hands-on retail validation mattered more than friends-and-family praise; farmer’s market sellouts and Whole Foods interest proved the business had real demand. Shark Tank was valuable not just for money but for access to expertise, brand validation, and a partner with deep beverage experience. Digital-first marketing and TikTok were essential to scaling quickly during COVID, especially when physical retail momentum was disrupted. A strong founder story combined with a clear mission helped Poppy stand out in a crowded beverage category. Taking bold, well-timed risks—like the Super Bowl ad—can pay off when the brand and message are already strong. Selling the company was a deliberate choice because beverage scale often requires a much larger distribution partner than founders can build alone. Founders should know their numbers, be coachable, and seek real strategic capital rather than “dumb money.”

Data Points: Whole Foods rollout timeline: 10–11 months - Time from getting the Whole Foods forager’s card to being on shelf Early Whole Foods store count: 14 stores - Dallas Whole Foods stores the founders had to sell into individually Early revenue milestone: $500,000 - Revenue reached after local scaling and Whole Foods traction Shark Tank application wait: 8 hours - Time spent standing in line to try out for the show Pregnancy timing during Shark Tank: 3 months pregnant / 9 months pregnant - Allison was pregnant at tryouts and later near-term when the episode filmed Shark Tank to air delay: 6 months - Time from tryouts to actually appearing on the show Amazon growth during COVID: $9,000 to $250,000 - March to the following month after the Shark Tank update aired during lockdown TikTok viral video views: 300 million views - Allison’s simple, personal TikTok story about Poppy TikTok video immediate sales lift: $100,000 overnight - Amazon sales generated while they slept after the viral video Brand awareness KPI duration: First 4 years - Primary metric the company focused on before heavier revenue optimization Super Bowl ad timing: 4 days before the game - They bought the ad at the last minute Super Bowl ad placement: 1 minute before Usher - Ad aired right before halftime in a premium slot Annual revenue forecast: $200M–$350M - Projected 2024 range before Super Bowl impact Annual revenue achieved: Over $500M - Actual 2024 revenue after Super Bowl and scale effects Pepsi acquisition price: $1.95 billion - Approximate sale price for Poppy Market entry constraint: 3 major strategic paths - Pepsi, Coke/KDP, or IPO were described as the main beverage scale options

Pivotal Quotes: "I’m standing there on the edge of the bridge. I’m just like, should I jump? ... And I donkey kick him off the cliff." — Stephen and Allison Ellsworth: A metaphor for how Allison pushed Stephen from hesitation into fully committing to the startup "Your liquid’s amazing, but your branding is shit." — Rohan Oza: Oza’s blunt feedback that triggered the rebrand from Mother Beverage to Poppy "The most underexplored emotion for an entrepreneur is embarrassment. Get online and make a fool of yourself." — Allison Ellsworth: Her explanation of the fearless TikTok strategy that helped the brand go viral

Implications: The episode shows that category-defining brands often emerge from personal pain points, strong storytelling, and willingness to pivot fast. For founders, it underscores the value of strategic capital, digital-first growth, and bold marketing bets when scale requires more than product alone.

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