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How To Pursue Your Dream & Make A Living As An Artist w/ Derek Hough EP 1167

Today’s guest is Derek Hough. He’s an Emmy Award winning Choreographer and New York Times Best-Selling author. Derek started dancing at age 11 and has since become the only six time champion in franchise history of the hit ABC show Dancing with the Stars. He has a new live show in Las Vegas that I’m

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Executive Summary: Lewis Howes interviews Derek Hough about the inner shift behind outward success: moving from winning as a way to earn love toward performing from joy, service, and self-acceptance. Derek shares childhood trauma, how dance became his refuge, why emotion and vulnerability matter, and how artists can build careers through execution, social media, and collaboration. The episode ends with Derek’s core life lessons on appreciation, enoughness, and service.

Main Topics: From achievement to self-worth: Derek explains how years of competition and accolades still left him feeling empty because he equated success with love and worthiness. He describes a major mindset shift: realizing he was enough without trophies or validation. Childhood trauma and the drive to excel: He recounts severe bullying and abuse as a child, including being hung upside down, tied up, and threatened with a gun. That pain fueled his need to escape and prove himself, while later giving him empathy for wounded people. Emotional range, healing, and curiosity: Derek discusses allowing anger, sadness, and frustration to be felt instead of suppressed, using emotion as information. He emphasizes healing wounds, asking deeper questions, and approaching others with curiosity rather than judgment. How artists can make a living: He argues that modern artists must create consistent content, execute ideas quickly, and use platforms like TikTok, Instagram, and YouTube to build audiences and opportunities instead of waiting to be discovered. State, focus, and manifestation: Derek credits Tony Robbins-style state management, language shifts, and focus as tools for performance and life. He says what you focus on shapes what you feel, and what you feel influences what you manifest. Letting go of perfectionism: He reframes perfection as preparation, presence, and service rather than flawlessness. He says perfectionism is paralyzing, and mistakes should be recovered from quickly instead of dwelled upon. Love, partnership, and groundedness: Derek says a deep relationship has brought him calm, consistency, and emotional grounding that he hadn’t found in other areas. He describes intimacy as a major source of peace and long-term growth.

Key Arguments: Success without self-worth is unsustainable; trophies and external validation only provide brief highs. Suppressing emotions does not remove them; it delays and intensifies them, so feelings should be acknowledged and released. Artists need execution more than ideas; consistent creation and platform use matter more than waiting for discovery. Movement and dance are primal human expressions that restore confidence, joy, and flow. Curiosity and compassion transform the way we interpret harm, helping reframe “bad people” as wounded people. A strong relationship can ground a high-performing, driven person and create consistent happiness. Greatness is service: the most meaningful success comes from helping others and lifting them up.

Data Points: Dancing with the Stars championships: 6-time champion - Derek’s record in the DWTS franchise Emmy Awards: 2-time Emmy winner - Derek’s industry recognition Current Emmy nominations: 2 more Emmys up for consideration - Mentioned in the intro to his career achievements Childhood start age: 11 - Derek began dancing at age 11 Age moved to England alone: 12 - He left home very young to pursue dance Age when severe bullying began: about 6 years old - He described being abused by neighborhood kids and bullied at school Number of schools attended: 6 different schools - He moved frequently and was repeatedly bullied Pandemic performance example: 1 at-home dance video led to Disney Sing-Along work - He described how a quarantine reel created professional opportunities Vegas show run: September 22nd to November 21st, 2021 - No Limit show dates mentioned in the introduction Show length: about 90 minutes / 1 hour 20 minutes - Vegas show described as non-stop with no intermission

Pivotal Quotes: "If you are in a field by yourself with no clothes, no possessions, no trophies, absolutely nothing, just you by yourself, you're enough." — Derek Hough: Core turning point in his self-worth journey "Whatever you resist persists." — Derek Hough: On allowing emotions to be felt rather than suppressed "Trade your expectations for appreciation." — Derek Hough: One of the three life truths he would leave behind

Implications: Listeners are encouraged to shift from validation-seeking to service, create consistently, and treat emotions as information. For artists, the episode argues that social platforms and execution now matter as much as talent.

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Lewis Howes is a New York Times best-selling author, 2x All-American athlete, keynote speaker, and entrepreneur. The School of Greatness shares inspiring interviews from the most successful people on the planet—world-renowned leaders in business, entertainment, sports, science, health, and literature—to inspire YOU to unlock your inner greatness and live your best life.

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