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ICYMI... HIBT Lab! Colin and Samir: Colin Rosenblum and Samir Chaudry

This week on How I Built This Lab, we're throwing it back to our very first Lab episode. In this episode, Guy sits down with Colin Rosenblum and Samir Chaudry, or better known as YouTubers Colin and Samir—a pair of creators who create content for other creators. (We know, pretty meta.) The crea

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Executive Summary: This episode traces Colin Rosenblum and Samir Chaudhry’s decade-long path from filming niche lacrosse content to building a durable creator-media business. Their story highlights the importance of underserved audiences, iterative experimentation, audience ownership, and monetization beyond platform ad revenue in the evolving creator economy.

Main Topics: Origin in lacrosse media (Priority: 5/5): Samir started the La Crosse Network to fill a coverage gap in the sport; Colin’s lacrosse team web series led to their first connection and eventual partnership. Building and scaling the lacrosse network (Priority: 5/5): They filmed games, licensed footage, expanded from one channel to many, and began appearing on camera to increase content volume and consistency. Pivot from niche sport to broader creator content (Priority: 5/5): After years in lacrosse media, they left Whistle Sports to create content under their own names, but initially struggled because their old audience did not follow them. Finding the creator-economy niche (Priority: 5/5): They found traction when they turned morning conversations about creators into a show about creators, especially as the pandemic expanded interest in online media. Creator business economics and monetization (Priority: 5/5): They explain that YouTube ad revenue alone is insufficient and that creator businesses need a mix of sponsorships, newsletters, merchandise, and other revenue aligned to a niche audience. Lessons for aspiring creators (Priority: 4/5): They emphasize starting with an underserved audience, using searchable topics, building process, and focusing on depth of connection rather than raw subscriber counts. Future of YouTube and the creator economy (Priority: 4/5): They argue YouTube remains powerful because of search, long-form attention, and creator relationships, while short-form platforms like TikTok prioritize feeds over creators.

Key Arguments: Underserved communities are the best starting point for a creator business because they are likely to care, return, and eventually monetize. A creator’s success depends less on massive subscriber counts and more on consistent viewers who deeply engage with the content. YouTube ad revenue alone rarely sustains a team-based media business; creators need diversified monetization. Process matters: turning creative output into a repeatable format allows for team-building and clear ad inventory. Scaling a creator business requires audience ownership beyond platform dependence, such as newsletters and other direct channels. The creator economy has lowered barriers to entry, but building a career remains difficult and resembles entrepreneurship. YouTube’s search and long-form viewing create stronger creator-audience relationships than short-form algorithmic feeds.

Data Points: Creator economy valuation: more than $100 billion - Described as the current estimated size of the creator economy Potential future valuation: within the next 10 years - Host says the creator economy could potentially reach a trillion-dollar valuation YouTube views for Colin and Samir: more than 100 million views a year - Their current audience scale is mentioned during the intro 2020 channel views: 5.6 million views - Colin and Samir’s reported YouTube views in 2020 2020 platform revenue: $16,000 - Money earned from the platform in 2020 2021 channel views: 107 million views - Reported YouTube views in 2021 2021 platform revenue: $109,000 - Money earned from the platform in 2021 2022 channel views: 73 million views - Reported YouTube views so far in 2022 during the interview 2022 platform revenue: $50,000 - Money earned from the platform so far in 2022 Early video views: less than a thousand views - Colin’s first episode on YouTube before Samir reached out Initial per-video budget: around $4,000 - Samir’s original financial model for the La Crosse Network Content expansion: from one channel to 60 different channels - Growth of the La Crosse Network over a couple of years Company team size: a team of six people - Current staffing required to run the show

Pivotal Quotes: "A YouTube video has to cost you $0. And you have to be able to do it over an extremely long period of time." — YouTube employee cited by Samir: Advice that changed their approach to budgeting and production "Burnout as creative output without direction." — Samir Chaudhry: How they describe the difficult years after leaving the lacrosse network "We have to hear from a lot more about what's happening in the creator space." — Guy Raz / Colin and Samir context: The rationale behind launching their newsletter and creator-focused media properties

Implications: The episode suggests creator success comes from serving niche communities with repeatable formats, then diversifying revenue and owning audience relationships. For aspiring creators, the path is less viral fame and more strategic entrepreneurship.

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Guy Raz interviews the world’s best-known entrepreneurs to learn how they built their iconic brands. In each episode, founders reveal deep, intimate moments of doubt and failure, and share insights on their eventual success. How I Built This is a master-class on innovation, creativity, leadership and how to navigate challenges of all kinds.New episodes release on Mondays and Thursdays. Listen to How I Built This on the Wondery App or wherever you listen to your podcasts. You can lis...

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