Pivot
Pivot

Inauguration Day, Biden's antitrust issues, and the future of Fox News

Kara and Scott talk about Inauguration Day and the Biden administration. Big tech critics are concerned about his potential DOJ antitrust division appointees. They also discuss several big names at Fox News departing the outlet and what happens to the cable networks without Donald Trump. In listener

Featured Speakers

NY Mag Host

Topics Discussed

Episode Summary

Executive Summary: Pivot’s post-inauguration episode mixes reaction to Biden’s ceremony with a tech-and-media strategy discussion. The hosts praise the visual and symbolic reset, then focus on Biden’s early COVID executive action, Big Tech’s role in vaccine logistics, Apple’s podcast ambitions, Trump’s final pardons, and how Fox News, CNN, and broader cable news may be reshaped by the end of the Trump era.

Main Topics: Biden inauguration and the symbolism of a national reset (Priority: 5/5): The hosts react emotionally to Biden and Harris taking office, praising the ceremony’s imagery, the presence of former presidents, Amanda Gorman’s poetry, and the careful visual staging that masked a militarized security environment. Big Tech’s shift from platforms to vertical content and services (Priority: 5/5): They argue Apple’s rumored podcast subscription service fits a broader pattern: dominant platforms using original content and subscriptions to control distribution, capture margins, and deepen ecosystem lock-in. COVID response and corporate participation in vaccine rollout (Priority: 5/5): The conversation centers on Amazon’s offer to help distribute vaccines, broader corporate logistics capacity, and how the Biden administration may enlist large firms to accelerate distribution after the Trump administration’s failures. Trump’s last-minute pardons and the politics of Silicon Valley influence (Priority: 4/5): Trump’s pardon of Anthony Lewandowski is discussed as a symbolic example of billionaire influence and unresolved tensions between law, tech power, and accountability. Antitrust, tech regulation, and the Biden DOJ (Priority: 5/5): The hosts debate whether the Biden administration will meaningfully pursue Google, Amazon, Facebook, and Apple, noting concern that centrist appointees could soften antitrust enforcement despite growing public pressure. The future of cable news after Trump (Priority: 4/5): They predict Fox News, MSNBC, CNN, and other linear TV outlets will struggle as Trump-driven crisis coverage fades, forcing a split between truth-oriented brands and outrage-driven programming. Education, misinformation, and accountability (Priority: 5/5): A listener question prompts a discussion about teaching civics, history, science, and truth-based reasoning early, while also holding platforms and political actors accountable for amplifying disinformation.

Key Arguments: The inauguration was emotionally powerful, but it also highlighted the country’s instability because the event took place under heavy militarized security. Apple’s move into podcast subscriptions would follow the same playbook as Netflix and Spotify: own distribution rails, create proprietary content, and capture more revenue. Amazon and other large firms have the logistics and IT capacity to materially improve vaccine distribution, but only under a competent administration willing to coordinate them. Trump-era tech and media behavior shows that major companies often avoid helping when governance is chaotic and self-serving. Big Tech antitrust enforcement remains uncertain because Biden’s team includes centrist figures with ties to tech, even as public concern over concentration grows. Cable news benefited from Trump’s chaos; without him, networks may need to choose between boring competence and outrage-based ratings models. Misinformation has always existed, but social platforms and partisan media have amplified it into a more dangerous force that education alone cannot fix without accountability. The most effective short-term remedy for platform abuse would be strong legal accountability for executives and companies that knowingly enabled harmful misinformation. Large corporations will likely support the Biden administration on public-health logistics because they prefer working with competent officials over a chaos-driven White House.

Data Points: Biden inauguration: 46th president - Joe Biden was sworn in as the 46th president of the United States. Kamala Harris milestone: First woman vice president; first woman of color vice president - The hosts note Harris’s historic swearing-in. SoFi refinance rate: as low as 4.24% APR - Ad read for student loan refinancing. SoFi membership: over 580,000 members - Mentioned in the sponsor read for SoFi. SoFi refinancing volume: more than $50 billion - Sponsor read describes total refinanced loans. Amazon workforce: 800,000 people - The hosts mention Amazon’s large workforce when discussing vaccine distribution priorities. Streaming platform toll rate: 3% to 12% - Describes Apple’s share of revenues via the App Store across streaming platforms. Twitter misinformation reduction: 72% - One host references a rapid drop in misinformation after account removals. Trump administration debt increase: $7 trillion - Used in a broader argument about fiscal irresponsibility. Additional debt in last 12 months: $4 to $5 trillion - Referenced as recent worsening of fiscal conditions. Vaccine mobilization target: 100 million - Prediction that a large-scale capitalist/logistical response could vaccinate 100 million people. Potential impact on fatalities: 80% reduction - Host speculates targeted vaccination could cut fatalities dramatically. Vaccine timeline: 90 to 120 days - Forecast for significant progress if logistics are fully mobilized.

Pivotal Quotes: "How will humans shape AI?" — Narration/intro: Opening ad copy for SAS frames the show’s sponsor message around responsible AI. "I think it was a nice piece of propaganda." — Scott Galloway: Commenting on the inauguration’s imagery and staging. "We need a one-time wealth tax." — Scott Galloway: Part of a broader argument that concentrated wealth and power require extraordinary policy responses.

Implications: The episode suggests a post-Trump media reset: fewer outrage incentives, more competence-driven governance, and a sharper battle over Big Tech power. For listeners, the key takeaway is that logistics, antitrust, and accountability will shape the next phase of politics and media.

🔓 Sign Up for Unlimited Episode Search

About Pivot

With great power, comes great scrutiny. Every Tuesday and Friday, journalist Kara Swisher and NYU Professor Scott Galloway offer sharp, unfiltered insights into the biggest stories in tech, business, and politics. They make bold predictions, pick winners and losers, and bicker and banter like no one else. From New York Magazine and the Vox Media Podcast Network.

View all episodes from Pivot